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    • BluegrassB
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      Bretro - Perhaps a dumb question - I know a lot more about White's than Wescos - but what exactly is the standard MP heel (is it a short block heel)?  And what is the difference between the boss and highliner heels?  Is the pic above your personal boots (you got them already?), and which heel is it?  I am carefully contemplating my next pair of engineers and really like the MP last - I really like the boots pictured above.

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        MP has a short block heel. I believe that the standard Boss heel and the highliner heel are one and the same. Like those pictures above.

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        • Finn666F
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          gotta love that flat toe box…great boots mate!

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          • Bretro_B
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            Thx for the comments gents! As explained to me by the guys at Wesco, the standard Boss heel is one stack shorter than the Highliner and one stack higher than the MP. The MP heel is a block heel whereas the Boss and Highliner heels are both Cuban. Yes indeed the boots pictured above are mine- MP last with the standard Boss heel, 10" height, black oil steer, double leather soles, 705 half soles, extra 2" instep strap, and custom brass roller buckles from John @VEB. The best engineers for under 7 bills IMO. And as Finn alluded to they are soft toe, which I gotta tell ya on these boots means your toes practically stick up through the leather!! They're finally breaking in after about 7mos of wear. Also as a note, the Narrows are built on the Boss not Highliner heel.

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              Thanks for the info, I didn't realize that the Boss heel was lower than the highliner. The toes on my MP Bosses were too tight and had to send them back to Wesco for stretching. Mine aren't soft toe tho…

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              • Bretro_B
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                No sweat man. also to add to the heel discussion; the Morrison or western last engineers are built on the Highliner heel… I was very confused myself as often it seems the Boss and Highliner heels get discussed synonymously, like they're one in the same, but Chris at Wesco told me they were different. (If anyone else can correct me, i sure as spit wont have my feelings hurt!) Regardless, the boss heel is high enough for me 😃

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                • BluegrassB
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                  Thanks for the detailed explanation - best one I've seen anywhere.  I'd def. want the boss heel (cuban/just a bit shorter).

                  Did you have to specify the soft toe with your build, or are boots with the MP last normally built that way?  I saw Superfuzz did not get the soft toe, so I assume either you specified soft or he specified hard.

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                    You have to specify soft toe. The normally come with the celastic (or whatever it is) toe box. Just FYI you also have to specify if you want dyed brown or natural edge trim on the midsole. The people at Wesco are super helpful to deal with.

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                      Also I would highly recommend getting vintage roller buckles like Bretro's and sending them to Wesco, especially if you're going for the vintage look with the flattened toe box. I got a pair from Vintage Engineer Boots Etsy shop and if he's out you can order them here: http://hukurokuju.com/

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                      • Bretro_B
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                        You got good taste, bro 🙂 @superfuzz:

                        Also I would highly recommend getting vintage roller buckles like Bretro's and sending them to Wesco, especially if you're going for the vintage look with the flattened toe box. I got a pair from Vintage Engineer Boots Etsy shop and if he's out you can order them here: http://hukurokuju.com/

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                        • BluegrassB
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                          perfect… thanks

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                            This forum is a great resource when it comes to the confusing process of ordering custom boots!

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                            • BluegrassB
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                              yeah, no kidding!  i'm still debating soft v. hard toe - i think i recall you have some pics, i will go back and look at again…

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                                I can post more pics of mine over the weekend. I am afraid that soft toe on the MP would be uncomfortable with my big toes pressed against the leather. Even with the hard toe box I had to send mine back and have them stretched.

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                                • BluegrassB
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                                  please do post more pics  🙂

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                                  • seawolfS
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                                    Of all the brands of shoes I've worn, Oak St., Alden, White's, Wesco, etc., My Wesco's are my favorite. I ordered my Boss boots about 3 years ago and I've been thrilled with them and Wesco's customer service ever since.

                                    “Good design is actually a lot harder to notice than poor design, in part because good designs fit our needs so well that the design is invisible” - Don Norman

                                    @zeebeeleather

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                                    • FridayF
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                                      @superfuzz mine is unlined
                                      @seawolf +1

                                      Tough, heavy and ready! = IRON HEART

                                      ~Shinici Haraki~

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                                        Sweet! What are the specs? I have a new pair in brown rough out inbound.

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                                        • ChrisC
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                                          Nice to have a new pair of boots when you need to give a contractor a kick in the butt, eh?  Speaking of which, I hope things are going smoothly on the remodel.

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                                          • Clint_DC
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                                            @superfuzz:

                                            Sweet! What are the specs? I have a new pair in brown rough out inbound.

                                            FACTORY SECOND BOSS
                                            STYLE BK7700705 (Size: 10.5E) [B-902]
                                              +Color: Black
                                              +11" Height
                                              +705 Sole
                                              +Condition: New

                                            DESCRIPTION: custom style; brown midsole, natural edges

                                            Thanks Chris!  The remodel is coming along very well and, fortunately, I've got a great contractor who rarely needs a boot in his ass.  I'll be posting some more pics soon.

                                            ATX IH Hoarder

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