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    IH-804 Double Knee Loggers Brown Duck & Super Black

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    • BeatleB
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      @Beatle:

      Giles or Lando, wondering what's the difference between these (in the duck cotton ) and the 801 …

      @Giles:

      Nothing that I know of…G

      But actually it turns out there is - the weight

      801 is 16 - and 804 brown duck will be 20oz

      We can do anything

      http://bybeatle.com

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      • SeulS
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        Still wondering whether I should get these - fit looks a bit too wide for me, plus wondering whether I'll actually wear these (especially considering the new IH models being released soon as well)…

        Can I decide when they're out in the e-store and when I've seen some more pics and specs, Giles?..

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        • GilesG
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          4 oz

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • BeatleB
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            Okay - so this is it.

            The IH-804 Double Logger pants - 20oz.

            Available in

            Brown Duck
            Super Black

            Both versions can be ordered as single knee - and on top of that Paraffin coated.

            We can do anything

            http://bybeatle.com

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            • J Cosmo AspJ
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              Giles, thanks for getting the word from Haraki.  Two Double Black; one pair paraffin-coated, one no paraffin, please.

              Asp.

              Ni!

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              • BeatleB
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                official IH-804, brown duck, single knee - no paraffin - size 32

                We can do anything

                http://bybeatle.com

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                • BeatleB
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                  Just in case you guys are wondering….threads were merged..the 804 is the same cut and pant as the paraffin coated that we started a new thread for a couple of days ago.

                  Been hassling Giles for the last 10 minutes - this is it

                  The IH-804 Double Logger pants - 20oz.

                  Available in

                  Brown Duck
                  Super Black

                  Both versions can be ordered as single knee - and on top of that Paraffin coated.

                  We can do anything

                  http://bybeatle.com

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                  • DougNgD
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                    Let's organize this a little:

                    A. Brown Double Knee Paraffin
                    B. Brown Double Knee No Paraffin
                    C. Brown Single Knee Paraffin
                    D. Brown Single Knee No Paraffin
                    E. Superblack Double Knee Paraffin
                    F. Superblack Double Knee No Paraffin
                    G. Superblack Single Knee Paraffin
                    H. Superblack Single Knee No Paraffin

                    I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                    • J Cosmo AspJ
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                      OK, let me make a correction to my previous email.  Two pair double-black, DOUBLE-FRONT, one with paraffin and one without.  Haysoos Christo, you'd think I'd be a bit more engaged about this…

                      Asp

                      Ni!

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                      • SimonS
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                        This is a tough one; the heart says "go with choice 'A', paraffin coated double knee Ducks are going to look so awesome". Where as the head says "20oz duck doubled at the knee is going to be hard work and your light cream leather seats are not going to thank you for covering them in paraffin, go with choice 'D'".

                        As Seul said, I'm going to have to wait to see the real thing, or some fit pics I think?

                        Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities - Frank Lloyd Wright

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                          Alright, before I make any decisions I need to know a few things…

                          1. Besides the weight difference of 4oz, will they be exactly the same cut as the IH-801?
                          2. Because the weight is different from the IH-801, what does that do to the rate of shrinkage?

                          I am wondering because I have both the IH-801 and IH-802 (W33) but have never washed or soaked either one. Hoping that they shrink up a bit when I finally do. I was thinking about getting the single knee versions in W32 but if they shrink a bunch I will size up like I did previously. Any help would be much appreciated as my order is ready to be placed...

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                            Alright, before I make any decisions I need to know a few things…

                            1. Besides the weight difference of 4oz, will they be exactly the same cut as the IH-801?
                            2. Because the weight is different from the IH-801, what does that do to the rate of shrinkage?

                            I am wondering because I have both the IH-801 and IH-802 (W33) but have never washed or soaked either one. Hoping that they shrink up a bit when I finally do. I was thinking about getting the single knee versions in W32 but if they shrink a bunch I will size up like I did previously. Any help would be much appreciated as my order is ready to be placed...

                            Cough Cough

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                              Superblack Double Knee, no paraffin, sz 28 please 🙂

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                                @LandoCal126:

                                Alright, before I make any decisions I need to know a few things…

                                1. Besides the weight difference of 4oz, will they be exactly the same cut as the IH-801?
                                2. Because the weight is different from the IH-801, what does that do to the rate of shrinkage?

                                I am wondering because I have both the IH-801 and IH-802 (W33) but have never washed or soaked either one. Hoping that they shrink up a bit when I finally do. I was thinking about getting the single knee versions in W32 but if they shrink a bunch I will size up like I did previously. Any help would be much appreciated as my order is ready to be placed...

                                Cough Cough

                                My official order (Pending answers from the above questions) is as follows…

                                (1) C. Brown Single Knee w/ Paraffin - W32 or W33
                                (1) H. Superblack Single Knee No Paraffin - W32 or W33

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                                • GilesG
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                                  @LandoCal126:

                                  1. Besides the weight difference of 4oz, will they be exactly the same cut as the IH-801?
                                  2. Because the weight is different from the IH-801, what does that do to the rate of shrinkage?

                                  The questions have been asked….G

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    The cut is exactly the same as all the previoius and current Logger patterns (IH-801, 802 and 803).

                                    Haraki is performing shrink tests at the moment.

                                    G

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      Perfect, thank you G! I await the shrinkage tests for my final decision…

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                                      • mvbM
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                                        will these stretch? did the 16oz stretch?

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          Personally I did not get much stretch on my 800's.  The 20oz, I think will hold it's shape.  Duck is not a twill, so does not have the same propensity to stretch…G

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • mvbM
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                                            thought so, thanks
                                            34 will do then

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