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    • gbougardG
      gbougard
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      Hemi, a quick question for you:

      nowadays, we see quite a number of League players thriving (Folau being the latest sensation) in Union.

      Do you know if there are similar successes the other way round (Union guys trying League and becoming "superbad" in League)?

      Here in France, there is nobody I can think of, and I dont think there are examples in England, where League is a force (unlike here).

      Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
      Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
      Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

      Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
      Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
      Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
      Ric

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      • gbougardG
        gbougard
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        Crusaders: Wyatt Crockett, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Luke Romano, Sam Whitelock, George Whitelock, Matt Todd, Kieran Read ©, Andy Ellis, Dan Carter, Zac Guildford, Tom Taylor, Ryan Crotty, Tom Marshall, Israel Dagg. Reserves: Ben Funnell/Laurence Corlett, Dominic Bird, Luke Whitelock, Willi Heinz, Robbie Fruean, Telusa Veianu.

        Chiefs: Robbie Robinson, Patrick Osborne, Charlie Ngatai, Bundee Aki, Asaeli Tikoirotuma, Aaron Cruden, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Matt Vant Leven, Tanerau Latimer, Liam Messam, Brodie Retallick, Craig Clarke (c), Ben Tameifuna, Hika Elliot,  Pauliasi Manu. Reserves: Mahonri Schwalger, Toby Smith, Michael Fitzgerald, Sam Cane, Augustine Pulu, Dan Waenga, Lelia Masaga.

        any of these would win the 6 Nations easy and would be a contender for at least the semi finals of the Rugby World Cup

        Fruean on the bench: fucking frightening! I love NZ rugby

        Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
        Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
        Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

        Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
        Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
        Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
        Ric

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        • HemiH
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          Most of us grow up playing Rugby and Rugby League here, then you choose one.  The problem with Rugby League attracting Rugby converts (apart from Rugby is now professional) is that there is only one competition that's any good and its in Australia with only one team from Auckland, New Zealand.  Their aren't as many pathways and international League is not as competitive as Rugby in fact we still consider the State of Origin three game series between Queensland and New South Wales as the pinicle of League and NZ's aren't eligible.

          But before Rugby went professional many guy's switched to League to earn a living and it was unheard of to switch the other way.

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          • gbougardG
            gbougard
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            now, saturday's NZ-France was a bloodbath. inexorability at its best

            Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
            Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
            Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

            Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
            Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
            Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
            Ric

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            • HemiH
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              The two All Black tries were amazing!  They might play a few more of the inexperienced guys in the last test.

              I'm gutted that Louis Picamoles is injured, he's been awesome for the French.

              How about the Lions losing to ACT last night?

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              • gbougardG
                gbougard
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                cant wait for the trination to start and watch SA-NZ games. Mammoth teams, yet two different approaches to Rugby

                Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
                Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
                Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                Ric

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                • M
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                  Hasn't Sonny Bill Williams recently switched to League in Australia?

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                  • Mild7M
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                    Youre right Maynard.  Going to play for the Sydney Roosters i believe.

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                    • gbougardG
                      gbougard
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                      ive been watching several NRL games on youtube and it is kinda growing on me
                      the pace is incredible
                      Seems a bit too simplistic though

                      Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
                      Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
                      Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                      Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                      Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                      Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                      Ric

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                      • M
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                        I think the simplicity is a strength. It flows in a more continuous fashion, less kicking and break-up of play and more ball in play time (I think). I wish I'd had a go at League in my younger, playing days.

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                        • HemiH
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                          The NRL is awesome!  Their weakness is the International game which is where Rugby is light years ahead.

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                            Do you call it Rugby (Union) and NRL (League) down there? Up here, it's simply Union and League.

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                            • HemiH
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                              We just call it Rugby and League.  When we talk about league its usually in reference to the NRL.

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                                Well done the Lions!!!

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                                • gbougardG
                                  gbougard
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                                  This Lions concept is a nice tradition. I like the fact that they tour only every 4 years, it keeps the idea special.

                                  Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
                                  Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
                                  Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                                  Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                                  Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                                  Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                                  Ric

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                                  • HemiH
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                                    Yeah, the Lions Tours are great!

                                    Wouldn't it be amazing to see a proper Pacific Islands Team put together under the same concept with the same resources.  Treatment of the Pacific Islands by the big Nations is one of the great shames of International Rugby.

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                                    • gbougardG
                                      gbougard
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                                      @Hemi:

                                      Yeah, the Lions Tours are great!

                                      Wouldn't it be amazing to see a proper Pacific Islands Team put together under the same concept with the same resources.  Treatment of the Pacific Islands by the big Nations is one of the great shames of International Rugby.

                                      +100,000
                                      imagine what Samoa could become if they had a tenth of what is being spent in the 6 Nations up North or down South…
                                      NZ would be in trouble

                                      Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
                                      Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
                                      Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                                      Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                                      Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                                      Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                                      Ric

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                                      • HemiH
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                                        We'd be alright mate because our styles are similar and we all grow up playing together but the Northern Hemisphere teams would really battle… they don't like the big hits.  The Pacific Island Teams really need more top tier games instead of playing Canada, USA and Japan all the time.

                                        There is a real power imbalance on the IRB.  The Oceania Rugby Teams of which Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, Cook Islands etc are part of only have one vote between the entire group.  Argentina, Canada, Italy and Japan all have one vote each and even teams as sh*t as Scotland have two.  Samoa are ranked ahead of six other Countries that have more say on the IRB.

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                                        • gbougardG
                                          gbougard
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                                          @Hemi:

                                          We'd be alright mate because our styles are similar and we all grow up playing together but the Northern Hemisphere teams would really battle… they don't like the big hits.  The Pacific Island Teams really need more top tier games instead of playing Canada, USA and Japan all the time.

                                          There is a real power imbalance on the IRB.  The Oceania Rugby Teams of which Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, Cook Islands etc are part of only have one vote between the entire group.  Argentina, Canada, Italy and Japan all have one vote each and even teams as sh*t as Scotland have two.  Samoa are ranked ahead of six other Countries that have more say on the IRB.

                                          You absolutely right about the IRB cocksuckers mafia
                                          If I ruled the world, I'd let NZ send two teams to the world cup, the All Blacks and the Maori All Blacks.

                                          Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
                                          Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
                                          Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                                          Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                                          Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                                          Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                                          Ric

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                                          • gbougardG
                                            gbougard
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                                            They came, they saw, they conquered. 47 - 29… Holy shit

                                            Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
                                            Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
                                            Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                                            Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                                            Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                                            Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                                            Ric

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