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    DougNg
    Joined: 24 Sept 2009

    I'll post up my experiences shortly, I have to head out to a parent/teacher conf

    I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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      unharmed
      Joined: 4 Mar 2012

      Actually, according to the only proper study I'm aware of in this area, weightlifting (by which I mean Olympic style lifting) is one of the safest sports you can participate with general wight training, powerlifting and bodybuilding not far behind:

      Results are in the table near the top of this page: http://www.exrx.net/WeightTraining/Safety.html

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        bagley920
        Joined: 10 Oct 2011

        Down 9 lbs just with changing my diet. Can't quite run yet but been doing some walking on my treadmill

        If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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          hasty
          Joined: 30 Dec 2010

          @Jord666:

          Get yourself along to your local Crossfit Box G and combine that training with the Paleo Diet.

          Crossfit + Paleo = results fast

          +1 for Crossfit. I totally love it!

          G, doesn't the Kickboxing school two doors down offer any conditioning classes?

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            JCar2666
            Joined: 8 Apr 2012

            Would love to try cross-fit myself.  It's just stupidly expensive here in the states.  They all charge close to $200 a month for an unlimited pass and only $20 cheaper for 3 times a week.

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              Jord666
              Joined: 30 Sept 2011

              Yea, been training Crossfit and eating paleo for about a year now and am in the best shape of my life, its really great and you never know what to expect going in there so it keeps me from getting bored and stuck doing the same things week in week out.

              Wow! $200 a month?? That's crazy! I pay £35 a month for unlimited classes here in the UK

              GO HEAVY OR GO HOME

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                JCar2666
                Joined: 8 Apr 2012

                ^^ Yea it's fucked they charge so much.  Don't quite get how they can offered to do so.  But obviously there's plenty of suckers out there

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                  unharmed
                  Joined: 4 Mar 2012

                  My current inspirational viewing:

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                    simonc
                    Banned
                    Joined: 28 Nov 2010

                    i hate it when people drop weights.

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                      unharmed
                      Joined: 4 Mar 2012

                      ….really?

                      last edited by 13 Dec 2012, 14:39 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        hasty
                        Joined: 30 Dec 2010

                        I was about to say it's almost stupidly expensive in the UK too! £35 unlimited! Jord what box do you go to?!

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                          simonc
                          Banned
                          Joined: 28 Nov 2010

                          @Giles:

                          @injunjack:

                          Forget the gyms and do what Doug did. Buy some kettlebells and move on to Girya Sport or equivalent. Forget the aerobic style workout with kettlebells and do it simply.

                          Doug, I'm glad it's working out for you, and I should start training more, but is just a additional strenghtening for me…
                          Did you get those competition kettlebells yet? They're soo much better balanced. They take lifting to next level...

                          OK.  I need to shape up - what do I need to buy/do?

                          I would firstly get a standing desk Giles, http://www.conset.org.uk/product/prodone/499/default.aspx sitting on your ass all day is bad (I am ordering one), the older you get the worse it gets, so get standing.  Second i'd get a chin up bar in the house, start jogging, and do press ups every day.  Those three exercises should take care of most of your needs.  No need for any weights just be your own dumbbell.

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                            Giles
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                            Thanks Simon…....

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              Jord666
                              Joined: 30 Sept 2011

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                              GO HEAVY OR GO HOME

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                                Graeme
                                啓蒙家
                                Joined: 30 Mar 2012

                                @Giles:

                                OK.  I need to shape up - what do I need to buy/do?

                                Assuming you're after general fitness, and not wanting to compete, I'd comine running, cycling or rowing at a decent intensity for aerobic conditioning, and throw in some resistance work with weights to build muscle.

                                If you want to lift weights then find a powerlifting or Olympic weightlifting club that has a coach, or hire a decent personal trainer, and learn proper form. Stick to the big, basic compound exercises like bench presses, squats and deadlifts, rather than all the poncy arm curls that bodybuilders go in for.

                                The EXRX site that Unharmed linked to is good.

                                In general, do what you enjoy, and make sure it's intense enough to make you sweat. But if you want to control weight with exercise then you'll need to do 200 to 300 minutes a week.

                                Diet? If you want to lose weight eat less, and if you want to gain it then eat more. Avoid too much saturated fat (or fat in general), processed sugar or red meat. Eat plenty of fruits and vegetables, and make sure you've got your nutritional bases covered.

                                Most of the big name diets work because they follow some or all of the above. The GI diet has scientific backing, as it was developed to help with diabetes. If your cholesterol is high then look into the Portfolio diet, and there are studies showing it's effective. And there's evidence that intermittent fasting has health benefits.

                                The only supplements that have evidence they work are Creatine, protein powders, sports drinks and caffeine. The rest are by-and-large a waste of money.

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                                  unharmed
                                  Joined: 4 Mar 2012

                                  Hear hear.

                                  last edited by 13 Dec 2012, 14:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    unharmed
                                    Joined: 4 Mar 2012

                                    "Abs are made in the kitchen" as the bodybuilders say.

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                                      Friday
                                      Joined: 27 Mar 2012

                                      @Graeme:

                                      In general, do what you enjoy, and make sure it's intense enough to make you sweat. But if you want to control weight with exercise then you'll need to do 200 to 300 minutes.

                                      qft

                                      Tough, heavy and ready! = IRON HEART

                                      ~Shinici Haraki~

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                                        Chris
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                                        @simonc:

                                        be your own dumbbell.

                                        This should be no problem for Giles…

                                        last edited by 13 Dec 2012, 16:21 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          DougNg
                                          Joined: 24 Sept 2009

                                          Yeah, Crossfit is cost prohibitive for me as well, and considering my wife and son like to come with me to the gym, I'm looking at a recurring $600 a month

                                          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

                                          last edited by 13 Dec 2012, 16:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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