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    Morose_Penguin
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 29 May 2011

    Almost finished. On a second read through, I liked 'The Steel Remains' a lot more and 'The Cold Commands' has been just as good.

    Read:

    before. I couldn't put it down, it's brilliant. Really makes me excited for the next in the series.

    Right, more books and more beer.

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      Seul
      Joined: 24 Nov 2009

      Updating my standard versions to ones illustrated by Tardi… Also reading both in French... It'll be hell but I should be able to as I've read both a lot in both English and Dutch...


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        FOXY
        Joined: 14 Mar 2011

        getting prepared for NYC later this year…

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          Seul
          Joined: 24 Nov 2009

          Landed Tuesday 31/07 but didn't take a pic yet:

          Really nice versions. I started in Casse-Pipe though, and I don't think my French is good enough  😠

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            natehate
            啓蒙家
            Joined: 18 Jun 2012

            all the mccarthy fans check out this album
            http://www.bluecollardistro.com/lucero/product_info.php?products_id=7093&cPath=61_160&store=
            its by ben nichols (the lead singer of lucero) and its based on blood meridian
            super awesome

            don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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              I just finished reading A Game of Thrones. How does it correspond to the first season of the series? I only just started the second book and would prefer to not have the television series ruin what's in store but I'm getting tired of getting raised eyebrows when people hear I've yet to see the show.

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                thomasnunnally
                Joined: 5 Jul 2010

                My suggestion would be to read the first three without any influence from the show because they are pretty damn good reads.  Books 4 and 5 aren't as good, so once you get there, it probably shouldn't matter much.

                I will say the show focuses on certain things way too much (hey it's HBO).  The visuals are pretty great, but the execution of the story is meh to me.  Just one man's opinion.

                Out with the new! In with the old!

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                  Chris
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                  As an additional recommendation, I would suggest that when you get to books 4 & 5, to read them together; i.e., a chapter from 4, then a chapter from 5, and so forth.  You should have about 1/4 of book 5 left when you finish book 4, which you can then finish solo.

                  It's unwieldy and feels a tad ridiculous, but Martin originally intended them to be a single book.  For a variety of reasons, that didn't happen, and he split them in a manner that grouped (in my opinion) the most loathsome characters into book 4, making it a less enjoyable read.  Also with how interwoven the storylines are, 4 feels slightly incomplete when read alone.  Reading the two together ameliorates both issues.  There's a note from the author somewhere in 5 giving a bit of an explanation about it.

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                    Thanks, guys. I get the impression that reading these books is going to become more tedious than enjoyable…

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                      Chris
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                      First 3 are great, pacing slows down dramatically in the next 2.  They almost feel like they're a combination placeholder/tidying up of loose ends.

                      I have to admit, I've become a bit disenchanted with the series over the last decade or so.

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                        thomasnunnally
                        Joined: 5 Jul 2010

                        @Chris:

                        First 3 are great, pacing slows down dramatically in the next 2.  They almost feel like they're a combination placeholder/tidying up of loose ends.

                        I have to admit, I've become a bit disenchanted with the series over the last decade or so.

                        I would tend to agree with this.  First three are great to read, but in retrospect, I almost wish I hadn't bothered with the last two.  The thing is, I liked the storyline of 4 and I wish he had just continued those stories instead of having two books that generally didn't move the story that far forward.  I did not like reading 5.  But, I think I may have liked it more if I read it the way Chris suggested with 4&5 at the same time.  Unfortunately, I read 4 right when it came out, so I did not have that option.

                        Out with the new! In with the old!

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                          Chris
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                          I did the same and really didn't enjoy 4, but with a six year gap to publication of 5, I had forgotten a lot of the details in the various storylines. I decided to reread it as a refresher and did as I suggested above.  I found it much more enjoyable the second time around.

                          Game of Thrones was published in 1995, and at the rate he's going, Martin probably won't finish the series until 2025 or so.  It's got to be tough to work on the same thing that long and still get excited about it.  I suspect that if the series hadn't turned into such a massive phenomenon, Martin just would have moved on to something else and maybe never finished it at all.

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                            Morose_Penguin
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 29 May 2011

                            Harry Harrison has died. The world of SF is less without him.

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                              madmonday
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 13 Oct 2009

                              currently reading sincerity by R.Jay Magill Jr. & just looking at the pictures in Lost New York by Marcia Reiss

                              head high, middle finger higher

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                                Morose_Penguin
                                Raw and Unwashed
                                Joined: 29 May 2011

                                Currently reading:

                                A book written by the author of the short story "Fire in the hole" which the tv series "Justified" was based on. It's basically a few of the tv episodes written as short stories.
                                Where it gets really weird is that Raylan Givens also features in two other Elmore Leonard novels that were written about 15-20 years ago. But like all good heroes, Raylan doesn't age.

                                And a few years ago Elmore Leonard wrote a couple of books featuring a Carl Webster a US Marshal in the 1930's. But at the moment I can't remember if they were related.

                                last edited by 28 Aug 2012, 15:44 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • Sugar MountainS
                                  Sugar Mountain
                                  Joined: 18 Jan 2012

                                  My current reading:

                                  Don Delillo at his best. So, so good.

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                                  • derivative666D
                                    derivative666
                                    Joined: 30 Jan 2011

                                    ^great author

                                    "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                                    • Sugar MountainS
                                      Sugar Mountain
                                      Joined: 18 Jan 2012

                                      @derivative666:

                                      ^great author

                                      Indeed. Libra blew me away. Utterly brilliant book with the most impressive sense of tension and atmosphere I've read in a long time. I didn't know a great deal about the Kennedy assassination prior to this, but Delillo's portrayal of Lee Oswald is compelling.

                                      Now getting into:

                                      I really enjoyed Ford's The Sportswriter and this one is proving to be great as well.

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                                      • hecticH
                                        hectic
                                        Joined: 24 Sept 2009

                                        Just finished Sweet Tooth by Ian McEwan - go read it!

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                                        • GilesG
                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          Just got "Time Out, Country Walks, Vol 1 - 52 Walks Near London".  The walk that Sugar Mountain did at the weekend is in it, so needed it.  Thanks SM….

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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