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    Lucifer
    Joined: 31 Aug 2011

    @urbanwoodsman:

    @Lucifer:

    I just have to play a bit of a devils advocate about rangefinders:

    • Framing is less accurate than ttl/evf-cameras, so if your style of photography depends on accurate framing, this might be a problem.

    • If you shoot wider than 25-28mm or longer than 75mm (and personally, even with a +1.25 diopter, 75mm is pushing it) a rangefinder might not be your cup of tea.

    • the M8 and the M9 are both plagued by relatively low quality LCD-screens. Which this might not seem very important, I find it far harder to check if I have gotten focus just right on a M9 than on a nikon d700.

    • While Leica cameras are mechanical marvels with amazing tight tolerances and a feel that is hard to describe with words, sadly, they aren't that good with electronics, I got tired of waiting 4-5-6 seconds after pressing "play" to get a picture up on the screen. This kind of sluggishness plagues the system imo.

    I asked my friend the other day why he prefers his Leica M9 over his Canon 5dMkii and he just said,"it feels like a real film camera, which I love, but it's actually shit." For him, it's purely the feel and aesthetic of it that makes him use it. The glass is obviously great, but paired with a horrible sensor, the body doesn't really do it justice. This is coming from someone who shoots everyday, professionally.

    Indeed, the feel of it is just amazing, it feels like compact, solid brass and it looks great, as an accessory to a leather jacket and a motorbike? Perfect.

    And in good light, the image quality is good as well, but when I shot semi-professionally, 90 % of my stuff were dark, badly lit metal concerts, aka: I needed iso 6400-12800, even with my 58/1.2.

    Seize the day and don't you cry.

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      jacoavlu
      Joined: 17 Dec 2010

      all true I think, leica made fabulous glass and great film cameras and could not survive as a business on that alone, the m8 and m9 are mainly for people who need a digital body to put their collection of film lenses on

      the experience of shooting a Leica I find very enjoyable but if I got into them again it would be to shoot film

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        Finn666
        Joined: 20 Jan 2011

        would be nice if anyone could help me out on this:

        looking for:

        • Nikon D700 (used but great condition!)

        • Nikkor 24-70mm 2.8 (used but great condition!)

        …anybody?  :-\

        I´d even look for a trade against IH-gear + money! 😉

        -> PM!

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          Seul
          Joined: 24 Nov 2009

          I can throw some money your way for the YOU KNOW WHAT  🙂

          last edited by 28 May 2012, 12:32 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            Finn666
            Joined: 20 Jan 2011

            @Seul:

            I can throw some money your way for the YOU KNOW WHAT  🙂

            I'll keep it in mind my friend 😉

            but seriously…anyone? or anyone know of anyone selling theirs?...

            last edited by 28 May 2012, 16:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              jacoavlu
              Joined: 17 Dec 2010

              there's a huge market of used d700 out there check fredmiranda.com, getdpi.com, photo.net classifieds, rangefinder forum classifieds, keh.com, you're sure to find one

              last edited by 28 May 2012, 16:13 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                Finn666
                Joined: 20 Jan 2011

                @jacoavlu:

                there's a huge market of used d700 out there check fredmiranda.com, getdpi.com, photo.net classifieds, rangefinder forum classifieds, keh.com, you're sure to find one

                perfect mate…thanks a lot for those!...

                last edited by 28 May 2012, 17:10 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  derivative666
                  Joined: 30 Jan 2011

                  Rafa I have a Nikon 105 2.8 VRII macro if you are interested box warranty included only used 1 time for a product shoot.

                  "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                    Finn666
                    Joined: 20 Jan 2011

                    @derivative666:

                    Rafa I have a Nikon 105 2.8 VRII macro if you are interested box warranty included only used 1 time for a product shoot.

                    I'm interested mate, but at first I want to get the D700 and the 24-700…then, if money allows it...I'm going for the 105! 😉

                    last edited by 28 May 2012, 17:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      derivative666
                      Joined: 30 Jan 2011

                      Let me know I need to sell it within next 2 weeks

                      "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                        dave
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 8 Mar 2011

                        If you're thinking of jumping the Nikon ship, the 5D is a great alternative to the D700–even the original still looks great. Unless you're thinking 5D mark III or a cheap used Mark I, i'd probably stick with the D700 for autofocus reasons.  Can't go wrong with either brand these days.  Once you go FF after a crop body, you'll never want to go back.

                        Then again, a used 5D Mk II might be a good bargin if you're into video.  It seems like that's the standard for my film student friends on a "budget".

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                          Finn666
                          Joined: 20 Jan 2011

                          thanks a lot for your opinion dave…
                          atm i´m really thinking about leaving Nikon and jump on to Canon. i´m after a Canon 5D MKII and the 24-70mm 2.8L lens as my every day gear at first...i think this should do the trick as long as i´m not able to cop another lens (thinking 70-200mm 2.8L or sth.similar)...

                          what do you (or others) think of this idea mate?

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                            urbanwoodsman
                            Banned
                            Joined: 16 Aug 2011

                            @Finn666:

                            thanks a lot for your opinion dave…
                            atm i´m really thinking about leaving Nikon and jump on to Canon. i´m after a Canon 5D MKII and the 24-70mm 2.8L lens as my every day gear at first...i think this should do the trick as long as i´m not able to cop another lens (thinking 70-200mm 2.8L or sth.similar)...

                            what do you (or others) think of this idea mate?

                            Canon 5Dmkii or mkiii with a 24-70 2.8L is an amazing everyday combo.

                            I'd get a 50 1.4(yes, 1.4) or 85 1.2L next. The 85 is the best canon lens IMO.

                            Then, the 70-200 2.8, which remember is really fucking heavy.

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                              Finn666
                              Joined: 20 Jan 2011

                              @urbanwoodsman:

                              Canon 5Dmkii or mkiii with a 24-70 2.8L is an amazing everyday combo.

                              I'd get a 50 1.4(yes, 1.4) or 85 1.2L next. The 85 is the best canon lens IMO.

                              Then, the 70-200 2.8, which remember is really fucking heavy.

                              thanks a lot for the fast reply shane…
                              so i think i´ve found a nice deal already...

                              1730USD for 5D MKII body + E-6 battery grip with ~12.5k shutter releases

                              how does that sound?…maybe i can even lower the price!

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                                urbanwoodsman
                                Banned
                                Joined: 16 Aug 2011

                                Good Deal but you should be able to find one with a lower shutter count, not that it really matters, but still. Two of my friends have 5D mkii's with +175k shutter counts and still going strong!

                                Also, although I love the grip, I'd recommend not using it unless you need to shoot for long periods of time, since there's an extra battery in the grip. It gets heavy, comparatively, really fast.

                                last edited by 1 Jun 2012, 02:44 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  Finn666
                                  Joined: 20 Jan 2011

                                  @urbanwoodsman:

                                  Good Deal but you should be able to find one with a lower shutter count, not that it really matters, but still. Two of my friends have 5D mkii's with +175k shutter counts and still going strong!

                                  Also, although I love the grip, I'd recommend not using it unless you need to shoot for long periods of time, since there's an extra battery in the grip. It gets heavy, comparatively, really fast.

                                  o/course i´ve found some, but i thought cuz the grip is already included i could save some $ in first place as when i´d cop one with lower shutter count and the grip later on…

                                  found one at the same price, without the bg and with 5000 as shutter count!...also with 1year warranty!...

                                  last edited by 1 Jun 2012, 02:51 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    urbanwoodsman
                                    Banned
                                    Joined: 16 Aug 2011

                                    I'd go with the warranty.

                                    last edited by 1 Jun 2012, 02:54 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      Finn666
                                      Joined: 20 Jan 2011

                                      @urbanwoodsman:

                                      I'd go with the warranty.

                                      gues what i´ll do ;)…i even found a guy selling both...body and glass (both bought a couple months ago!)
                                      so wish me luck!...

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                                        Lucifer
                                        Joined: 31 Aug 2011

                                        Some nighttime walkabout pictures:

                                        Seize the day and don't you cry.

                                        last edited by 1 Jun 2012, 05:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          FACE
                                          Joined: 10 May 2012

                                          I shoot with a Minolta SRT101. I process my own BLACK/WHITE film @ home.
                                          I'd love to hear judgement and criticisms.


                                          please excuse the scratches


                                          off my first roll, not a real clean wipe of the film and some scratches

                                          my old barbershop

                                          University of Florida

                                          Communication College


                                          some Cubans playing dominoes

                                          the gangsters in my family getting older.

                                          my uncle Tony

                                          my abuelo's last photo

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