@AdamJ sorry for the double post. does this apply for the western version as well – and is there any timeframe here for either shirt at all?

thanks @Ross . anyone have opinions either way on a jacket without handwarmers? do you miss them? on the fence about this one because of this, as i usually like to have somewhere to put my hands. but also never had a jacket without them so i don't have a good frame of reference

Is there any estimate of when this one will release?

@Tago-Mago ah got it, was reading it incorrectly indeed, thanks

@Tago-Mago assuming was is a typo for wasn’t in that comment? Otherwise the wording has me confused — or am I just reading it incorrectly

@Alex thanks – are there going to be very few of these available? the only reason i want to order from IH is the snap upgrade, but if its between that and not getting one, maybe better to order from Brund

@tody thanks, really stuck between this one and the sbg 21oz that's coming soon, hard to decide

@labrat no im 180cm, so i think i'll be good length-wise. thanks for the advice, going to order a pair

@labrat no im 180cm, so i think i'll be good length-wise. thanks for the advice, going to order a pair

anyone have any advice on new yorker pant sizing? I'm a 3 in the fatigue pants and a 33 in most iron heart jeans – trying to decide between the 3 and the 4 for the new yorkers.

@Fades-for-future how is the sizing on these? found a haleiwa T in a color i want, but they only have XL (46). i'm an L in freenote and loopwheeler and an XL in merz b. schwanen, for reference. doubting whether to risk it

@Oaktavia has it gotten any softer? asked this a while back and you said no, but wondering if anything has changed since then. mine has one wash and much less wear than yours, but is still very stiff

does anyone know how similar in cut these are to wrangler 13mwz?

Anyone have insight into how these much relax/stretch with wear? I have one and it feels but doesn’t look tight, and the measurements are on point too. Wondering if it’s just the heft and initial stiffness of the fabric

@Graham thanks for this i'm almost certainly safe in the length, but i don't want a ton off the shoulders/chest. my washer jumps from 40 to 60 C, no 50 unfortunately

i'm looking to incrementally shrink this shirt. i first washed on 40C at 600rpm, and got a bit but not enough in the length. should my next step be 40C at a higher rpm? or is 60C at 600rpm a better choice?

@Sir_Cuffs-a-Lot what did you use to remove the pocket tag?

@Tago-Mago ah got it, was reading it incorrectly indeed, thanks