Posts made by NNNN

@JCMx800:

I have the black christy on a Packer, if that helps. The heel feels kinda low, if I ever send em in for a resole, I make sure to get a halfslip

Both heels/ soles side by side, its not that much difference, but walking in the packerised and lowered Jobmaster is much better.

Next boot will be Black Domain RO or Olive Smooth LTT Jobmaster with Amortred Sole including Halfslip or something Lets see when I have the funds…

Along the lines of the half slip… What's the heel height of your lowered Jobmaster? I've read that if you order 1/2" lowered heel, Wesco uses a different last with a lower heel and the same toe shape, rather than having the boot lean back significantly, and that every every shape (Jobmaster, Packer, Boss, etc) has a low-heel version. This is most common with the Narrows (1339) last, with the Motorcycle Patrol last being it's 1/2" lower counterpart. I've never had this confirmed, though.

Regardless, it sounds like you're going to go with a wedge sole, to go 1/2" lower, then get a half slip. Does that sound accurate?

It looks a little bit off, you are right. I choosed single midsole and the black tie domain, 7" height, again nothing fancy, but will be a great BWC boot

I'm excited to see this combo too. Was thinking it might be nice with a 10" height. Come to think of it, I don't think I've seen any MP Packers above 8"…

Does anyone know if the Armortred or Christy soles get proportionally thicker/thinner as they go up or down in size? My Wesco boots are small, so if the thickness is consistant though all sized they might be crazy chunky.

@superfuzz:

I'm seriously considering a pair of lace-to-toe jobmasters with armortred sole as my next pair. I want something super comfy.

I love those on the Armortred too. Been seeing a lot of this "classic" build with Burlap leather upper, and I'm into it. I'd probably go all black with 430, but the Armortred is definitely tempting. Bonus half roughout build too:

Nice! Love the build with the 430 sole - definitely doing that next.

madmonday- Thanks man. The Domain is their pullup leather, but unlike CXL it's black all the way through, so it won't fade to brown. Jeans are Rogue Territory Stealth Stanton, and the brown boots are Dayton Parade boots with Vibram 100 soles.

bluegrass- Yeah, it's the regular MP last, which is the same as the 1339 but 1/2" lower. I've been meaning to confirm, but according to this: https://www.boot.com/bwfeatr2.htm#heels, all the lasts have a lower heeled (and therefor flatter arched) version, and when you order the heel a half inch lower, they switch lasts. That way the boot shaft doesn't lean way far back. If that's really the case, I'd love to see some boots on low heel Morrison or Packer lasts.

Guess who finally located the special usb cable for the digital camera he rarely uses. That's right, me:

Tiny MP Packers! At this point they have a handful of wears. Details:

7" Packer
Black Domain
MP last
269 sole
Unlined
The rest is obvious

Shout out to Bretro_ for paving the way! BTW these (and I've noticed others) also have the black edge dye on the top of the midsole. I think they do it for boots in black leathers with natural midsoles now.

So these are great. I started out totally in love with Whites, but the more I looked at Wesco, the more the stuff I initially didn't like grew on me, like brown stitching on uppers for black boots, and white heavyweight stitching on uppers for Jobmasters. When I found the MP last I was sold. The domain leather feels great, I just hope it holds up well. I saw some old logo Jobmasters at the cobbler's in either regular black or the old Black Fire leather, and they were stiff and touch as hell. I think I'm gonna go with a standard black, lace to toe Jobmaster next. My feet will turn to mush in them in LA it will be so hot.

@JCMx800:

My packmaster were cool with thinner socks, but pretty tight with REAL socks like my L&L socks. I picked em up from a cobbler right now, he stretched em and now they are ready to bust some sneakers.

I had the opposite problem: mine were pretty long for my feet, so I had to tie them up real tight. After I ordered the boots, Wesco switched from Poron insoles to leather. I find leather insoles for boots to be uncomfortable after several hours of wear (high arches, flat last), so I popped in a Spenco insole and it made them fit better and feel more comfortable. Ugh I swear I'll get my pics up later today.

Also, who's ordered a pair of the Romeos yet? I'm kind of digging them. Plus you can get them on the MP last! I can't find any images of people actually wearing them, so I can't decide if they'd look ridiculous on a foot.

I'd love for Wesco to do a Chelsea boot tho. Giles, do you have secret intel that they're going to offer one at some point??

Looking good! Been meaning to post mine. I've had them for like 3 weeks what's taking me so long? Nearly identical build.

Just to clarify:

Viberg only does mto boots for group buys now, so the only way to get tiny sizes is from a group buy?

Oh man those look incredible.

I've been wondering why Wesco does that front half-slip when you order the 705 half-sole. The 705 is my favorite option on White's, but for some reason it kind of drives me crazy on Wescos.

@Megatron1505:

They're a heavily modified Packer on an MP last…..I shouldn't really use the other name.

"Fauxmaster"?

@Bluegrass:

And I guess you can get the jobmaster with or without heavy upper stitching?

Sounds like if you specify "packer upper" there will not be heavyweight stitching on the upper.

So this is a lace-to-toe Jobmaster with a Packer upper? Are there any differences aside from the heavyweight stitching on the upper? I guess with the regular toe version of the Jobmaster, having a Packer upper would also avoid having the extra bit of leather and stitching where the upper meets the vamp:

Do I have this right?

Wow, those are great! How did you omit the heavyweight stitching on the uppers? I'm not especially fond of it on any boots, but I do make an exception for Wesco Jobmasters with lace-to-toe.

@superfuzz:

Speaking of Wesco MPs…

@superfuzz these are some of my favorite Wesco engineers. Did you go with the smaller shaft diameter option? They look pretty slim.

Yeah they are the same thing. It gets confusing because both the lower- and higher-heel versions are referred to as "motorcycle patrol" depending on where you look.

Well I think that's all the reassurances I need, everyone. Way to go. Here's the build, btw:

Wesco Packer
Leather: Black Tie
Height: 7"
Toe: Motorcycle Patrol (not 1339)
Heel Height: Standard
Liner: None
Upper Thread: Brown
Outsole Stitching: White
Midsole: Single
Sole Edge: Natural
Sole: Vibram 269
Hardware: Brass hooks and eyes

Not too wild, but I'm mucho excited.

Sure they are, just not the shaft. It's more of an issue with tall engineer boots, but I was curious if the 5-6oz domain got more wrinkly/slouchy (in an "uh oh" way) without a lining than the 7oz black/brown leathers.

Khaki8, thanks for the info. Have you posted images of your packers? I thought I'd run into them at some point going through the thread, but I only spotted when you listed the build.

How are everyone's unlined Black Tie / Domain boots holding up? I went with a 7" MP (low) Packer in Black Tie, but I'm a little concerned about how it will (or won't) hold up in the long term without a lining.