cool thanks g

sizing questing, 38 in the 634s with a little room in the thight waist is 38,39 (haven't measure in a while ) anyway what would be the best size in the beatle 38,40 and is it true from the thigh down they are the same in both sizes.

if that is the case not sizing down might be perfect was looking at the 666 25 oz but was worried about the thigh, but the extra room on these might work better

lokking at the numbers are these a litle bigger in the thigh compared to a beatle thigh