@goosehd the waist is pretty spot on and has actually stayed pretty close to the measurements from when i bought them for all of my IH's. so the 33's that i bought, in the waist at least, have changed very little. I would say it's more so the thigh into/closer to the knee that has stretched, giving a more slim straight appearance.

Hi all,

For context, I own several pairs of IH-777 jeans, all tagged as 33. My waist is just about 85-86cm.

I have realized that with time and stretch, instead of retaining a slim taper look, they all start to look kind of slim straight (not the aesthetic I was going for).

I have the IH-777S-21's and they are looking more slim straight as well.

My question is, with the impending release of the IH-777-XHSib's coming up (will def be a grail purchase for me) - I want to get the sizing spot on!

I know it's hotly contested about pre and post-wash measurements but with these I do not intend on washing them (for a long while at least).

I want to ensure I really retain the slim taper aesthetic on these as I do like my clothing fitted (not skinny-like, but definitely fitted)

I see the size chart for the IH-777-XHSib's would recommend a 33 but I'm wondering if I should go 32 to account for stretch and the inherent looser weave of this ultra heavyweight denim.

Any advice is appreciated!

Cheers!