I’m a few days late with this review, but I managed to snag the last XXL at Burg Und Schild, and I’m really happy with it. Burg Und Schild got it shipped out fast, and it arrived safely in the USA a few days later. The fit is a little different on this one; the body is cut a little larger in circumference, but the shoulders, arms, and chest fit like a typical XXL. I didn’t want to size down because of arm length and circumference, and it’s a good thing I stayed with my normal size.

The arms are perfect in length and width, and the shoulders fit well also. In a perfect world, the body would be an inch or so narrower, but somehow the fabric drapes in a way that keeps it from looking too big. The fabric is also very easy to wear in spite of its weight, and I don’t find it restrictive at all. It’s a keeper for sure!

There were two must haves in this release - the Orange UHF and this camel Corduroy. I feel fortunate to have snagged both.

Well my purchase was definitely premeditated…. No second degree shopping here. I wrote customer service a few days prior to confirm the measurements on a IH-2526J and set an alarm for the opening minutes.

My new duck canvas type iii should be here tomorrow, but it is coincidentally arriving at the same time as a Stratocaster neck I bought for a guitar project. If I don’t log in for a few weeks, show this post to the police - my wife may not let me live.

First degree shopping may lead to second degree murder….

@Zinc2162 Do you have a regular Iron Heart Shirt to compare to? In my experience, IH CPO shirts tend to be roughly one size larger than a regular IH shirt in the same tagged size, but that's not a hard and fast rule.

I find that the IHSH-23-OLV and the GRY and BLK tend to run a bit smaller and trim in the arms. I needed to upsize to an XXL in this shirt, but sometimes I can get away with an XL in some other Iron Heart shirts. I can typically wear an XL in a CPO if I'm using it like a shirt not a jacket.

In my opinion, if you're unsure, go up a size in the Serge. The XXL is perfect for me in the Military Serge. I think this is because the Serge material stretches less than denim and chambray fabrics, and can be less flexible in general. Does this make sense? I find other fabrics to be be more "forgiving"?

@Jamesthejimbob was also fantastic to deal with - very easygoing and understanding about my lack of experience with international shipping. I'd recommend doing business with him anytime.

@Oaktavia said in Ship John:

@popvulture said in Ship John:

Received the jacket, and gotta say it's pretty wild how heavy duty it is. When I picked up the box on my porch I was like goddamn, this thing is a chonk.

Initial impressions: size L is good, almost a little big but I'm only wearing a tee at the moment. Nice to know I've got plenty of room for wearing a sweatshirt or sweater underneath. Getting a long seems like the right move — the sleeves are a bit long for my taste, but per responses to my previous query in this thread, that should shrink up as some creases start to form at the elbows. It feels like it's got so much wax in it, it's almost damp. I know that'll diminish, too.

Will post some pics at some point. Nice to have it arrive right when TX is getting hot, hehe.

How did you chose to size yours again? TTS or down?

I can speak to this as well. I have owned three Wills Jackets and enough Iron Heart jackets to compare. In typical American shirts, jackets and T-Shirts I am generally a Large sometimes an XL. 42-43" chest depending on my current weight and how trim the fit is.

• In normal long sleeve IH shirts (denim, serge, chambray) I can wear an XL, but for some I size up to XXL, generally because the sleeves are too narrow / small in circumference.

• In UHFs I need a XXL and sometimes I can get away with a XXXL. XXL is generally my Goldilocks fit for UHFs though.

• In IH type 3's, I can wear an XL, but it's a very close fit buttoned up - I'm probably better suited to an XXL in a 526J or 526PJ. In the N1 Deck jacket, an XL is perfection.

• In Ship John shirts, I am between sizes. Large is too small, XL is great in the shoulders and arms, but too big in the body. Be warned, these are NOT one washed like IH, so washing them you can experience shrinkage. Compared to Iron Heart shirts, Ship John are shorter in the arms and longer in the body.

• For the Wills Jacket, I wear an XL. Much like some IH items, the heavy fabric makes the Wills jacket feel smaller than it is, and it doesn't give or stretch much. I need the XL for the sleeve circumference, and the body is boxy enough to leave room for a layer underneath. I have found that my perfect Wills layering is a UHF and a Cotopaxi Fuego Puffer Vest. I don't have enough room in the arms for a second layer, so the vest adds extra warmth on cold days without trying to force puffy sleeves into the arms.

@Luijim78 my wife is generally pretty understanding with my hobbies, but two arriving at once when I’m not home to defend myself may raise her eyebrows a bit.

I actually plan on letting go of a IH-526J-22 in XL that I’ve, um, “outgrown” to offset the purchase, but there won’t be much market for heavy jackets until the weather cools off again. So yeah, I’ve got a little ‘splainin to do.

OK, finally,  here are a few pics of the 463S that I got from @Appfaff.  Not the greatest pics,  but you can see how well they fit.  My new pair is still a bit snug,  but these are a great blend of trim but comfortable.  Here they are with my Wesco 7500 boots (size 13):

I got one of these recently and it's such a great color. Unique and goes well with almost everything. As much of a UHF devotee as I have become, my Olive and Grey serge westerns are quick becoming my new favorite shirts.

After at least a year of hemming and hawing, I finally broke down and snagged one of these.  I love anything olive, and this is no exception.  I will say, it's been interesting reading the comments in this thread - some sized up, some sized down compared to their normal sizes.  For this one, I sized up to an XXL, and it was the right decision.  I briefly owned the black serge shirt in XL, and it was a bit too small all over, especially in the arms.  This is a perfect fit, and the arms are still trim - I couldn't have sized down.  For reference, I jump between XL and XXL in IH shirts, and I always need an XXL in UHFs.

I'm honestly not sure how some people size down as much as they do.  I'm not particularly big / muscular in the arms, but I don't think I could get my arms into a Large, and an XL would have been tight on my forearms.  Currently, I have a 43" chest and a 37" waist, broad shoulders and long arms.  I need to lose 10 pounds or so, but not enough to change my sizing.

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@ARNC said in IHSH-399-ORA - 12oz Slubby Heavy Flannel Check Western Shirt - Orange:

@jimmer_5 I’d say it was more about texture than hairiness - not the world’s best pictures but my party shirt from last year might give you an idea. https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum//post/797455

Also worth checking out the 369 and 375 threads.

That photo you shared is worth 1000 words. Thank you! I'm even more excited for this shirt now. The texture really makes it something special, and somehow it perfectly matches the pattern. Like the vintage seat cloth in an old car or Airstream from the 70s.

@Tago-Mago said in IHSH-399-ORA - 12oz Slubby Heavy Flannel Check Western Shirt - Orange:

@jimmer_5 this is from the IH Germany party shirt @ARNC mentioned:

"Slubby Heavy Flannel (SHF) is new to Iron Heart and is constructed from 12oz slub yarn cotton. Compared to the Ultra Heavy Flannel (UHF), it has the same weight, but a more pronounced texture and uneven hand, leading to a slightly more rugged exterior. The weft is still double-brushed to ensure the flannel is very soft and comfortable."

See also IHSH-369

FWIW I love the texture of the party shirt, gives the shirt great character

I agree, the texture really tops this one off nicely. Thanks so much for the explanation and the link.

@Alex I am 6 feet tall 220 pounds. I don't have a protruding gut, but I'm not an athletic fit anymore. In a t-shirt, my chest is 44", waist is 41", belly is about 41.5"

This is all a reminder that I need to get back on my diet and lose 20 pounds or so.

Thanks Alex - I plan on wearing it as a normal shirt, not an over shirt, so it sounds like my normal XXL will be right.

@Graham and @Alex - Can you offer any specific sizing advice on this one? I wear an XXL in UHFs, and the measurements on the XXL line up with what typically fits me well (trim, but not tight).

That being said, I wonder if I should size up due to the thickness and less forgiving nature of the duck canvas? Thanks in advance, this is kind of my perfect shirt and I've been anticipating this one. I want to get it right.

Thanks for the updates Giles and Graham. I am really looking forward to this one! This is currently at the top of my "want" list.

I’m a few days late with this review, but I managed to snag the last XXL at Burg Und Schild, and I’m really happy with it. Burg Und Schild got it shipped out fast, and it arrived safely in the USA a few days later. The fit is a little different on this one; the body is cut a little larger in circumference, but the shoulders, arms, and chest fit like a typical XXL. I didn’t want to size down because of arm length and circumference, and it’s a good thing I stayed with my normal size.

The arms are perfect in length and width, and the shoulders fit well also. In a perfect world, the body would be an inch or so narrower, but somehow the fabric drapes in a way that keeps it from looking too big. The fabric is also very easy to wear in spite of its weight, and I don’t find it restrictive at all. It’s a keeper for sure!

There were two must haves in this release - the Orange UHF and this camel Corduroy. I feel fortunate to have snagged both.

@Giles I sent you a PM in the hopes that you can grab one for me in Japan. Fingers crossed.

@Ross do you know if these will be restocked this season? I was busy this morning and apparently missed out.

Also, can anyone speak to the sizing and fit on this shirt? It appears to have sewn up a bit wider in the chest and body than my typical UHF size (XXL). Would it make sense to size down to an XL, or would the arms be too narrow if I do so?

@Alex I can imagine it was frustrating, but it sounds like most of us got our sizes and are happy? I'd say all's well that ends well. Your team is such a class act, and your customer service is genuinely unparalleled. I don't say that lightly.

I just scored an XXL and I'm really looking forward to it! This was the one "must have" item for me this fall, and then maybe that brown corduroy shirt......

I just bought a stunning IHSH-100 from @Oaktavia. Not only was he a pleasure to deal with but he shipped fast and the shirt was flawless. I would absolutely recommend him to anyone here.

I wasn't aware of this restock either - congrats on the scores. Out of curiosity, were there any changes to the pattern for this run, or are they essentially the same as the original version from a few years ago? The measurement chart looks about the same, but I didn't have it committed to memory.