Thanks gents. Interesting point of views about what "raw denim" means and what its real value is. I guess as a marketing term, it's at least an indication that the products using so-called raw denim are qualitatively different from non-raw denim. What that means… Well that's the opportunity to make a statement. And to creatively differentiate. Selvedge does offer an "almost vintage" quality -- and the colorful selvedge stitching is distinctive. The craft of making these denims also seem a vast improvement over the much less expensive alternatives.

Sizing -- interesting to know it's about the thread -- and not applied post weaving. The materials used in the sizing may only be of interest to a data driven individual, but I find it useful and not simply trivia. Starch traditionally was the byproduct of washing the starch from wheat, and vital wheat gluten (a mainly wheat gluten based flour) was a popular product out of Australia -- used for meat-like high protein meat substitutes. For those without gluten sensitivites.

Any information about formaldehyde on the denim used? Doesn't smell like there's much formaldehyde. Does no one really care?

I couldn't find the answer to these question on the forum, but if here, please let me know the link or thread where I can find the answer to these 2 questions:

Is IH denim treated with starch as a sizing? And if so, what's the source of the starch? Corn, wheat, etc.?

Has the IH denim been treated with formaldehyde, as are most conventional denim jeans? If not, why isn't this mentioned? And vice versa? Seems like an important distinction between raw and non-raw denim.

Thanks.

Beautiful botos @jay-cy! How does the heel design affect your experience of the fit of the Clinch boots? And I wonder who – if anyone - has non-engineer boots of these 2 brands and can compare the fit and experience of walking in them.

Any thoughts among experienced owners wearers of both Lofgren and Clinch boots? The fit and workmanship is so very close – just that there are fewer people involved in the cobbling of the Clinch boots. But for long distance walking and extensive wearing, have you noted any comfort or support in one brand compared to the other? I know they are all at the top of their quality -- my Lofgrens M43s are fantastic. What would I notice if I had a pair of Clinch boots (not necessarily engineers) different than the Lofgrens? Thanks for any comments or suggestions.

@Jordonf9:

I'll prob wash mine in 2-3 weeks. With the kids food droppings and the road grim on my car rubbing on the denim, will need to wash em earlier then normal. I almost never wash my denim, haha.

And when you do wash these denims, what will you use for soap? Dr. Bronners? Only water? Soap nuts?

Hemming… If you had these denims hemmed outside of the IHUK shop, what did you do? Chain stitched or not? Thread color to match the rest or other? Cuffed or straight?

Amazing fabric. Remarkable cut & fit. Photos to come.

Got mine today and like others – I'm impressed. Fabric, color, fit, drape -- all together a real win for the IH product line. I wonder if they could find another version of the kersey with wool blended with the cotton like the original kersey textile material. Would be great to have a cotton/wool blend with some of the shirts or overshirts. or even just wool. But no points off of this new shirt. It totally lives up to and exceeds the promise. Another win in my opinion.

Great shirt – made some cool nights in Koln last week quite tolerable, comfortable. Highly recommended!

I may be missing something obvious, but I cannot see an original estimate for availability. Was there one initially provided? I know patience is a virtue, but I'd like to be able to prepare for the colder weather sooner. Thanks.

Any eta on these shirts yet? October 1 is icumen in. Thanks!