thanks heaps!

camber hoodies are awesome. and American giant shirts and hoodies are great.

some ideas
1. (practical) paraffin coated 634-XHS
2. (tough and unchanging) superblack, paraffin coated 634-XHS
3. (crazy warm winter/ski jeans) paraffin coated, flannel lined 634-XHS
4. (crazy tough) paraffin coated, double knee XHS 634
5. (summer rain XHS) paraffin coated, extra loose weave for more breathability (would be great for really hot/humid countries that have wet and dry seasons.
6. (full armour combo) paraffin coated, reenforced at hemmed area with a way to 'lock' or 'button' into shoes (also waterproofed) which come with the jeans. it would be a set up to almost fully water proof the jeans and shoes connection area.
I like fades and hot weather so no. 1. and no. 6. would be my favs.

what's the process for posting pics?

It would be awesome if these were made in a waterproof version! any advice on waterproofing these? everything I've tried on other jeans doesn't work well or last very long. But i haven't tried waterproofing wax yet.

just ordered size 33. praying they'll fit well! How hot has been too hot to not be able to wear these? and when do you all recommend doing the first soak/wash?

gotcha thanks heaps

woops just saw you got a 32. is that your true waist size?

wow so KrisB what actually waist size are you and what size did you get in the 25oz?

that's helpful, so after stretching 2 inches, do the xhs's feel baggy?