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    • louisboscoL
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      has anyone got a touchbar macbook pro that's been affected by macbook's flexgate incident that is not part of the models listed??

      i'd love to know if they managed to solved it..

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      • organisysO
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        @louisbosco:

        anyone here using MacOS Catalina with an iphone? any of you experiencing issues with syncing with finder/ music app for your music, photos etc?

        Nope. I see new photos within a minute or two.

        Pride of Japan :-)

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        • louisboscoL
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          @organisys:

          @louisbosco:

          anyone here using MacOS Catalina with an iphone? any of you experiencing issues with syncing with finder/ music app for your music, photos etc?

          Nope. I see new photos within a minute or two.

          i gave up using the new music app awhile ago. it was easier popping up an older macbook to use itunes to sync folders of photos from my computer to my iphone..

          "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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          • louisboscoL
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            anyone here on the verge of getting the new iphone?

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            • dinobarnesberlinD
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              @louisbosco:

              anyone here on the verge of getting the new iphone?

              Im in the market to buy a new one–-but the whole 5G hype isn't enough to get me to get the 12.
              im looking hard at the 11 lately.
              I mean sure the cameras are always improving and im sure its great....but 5G isn't even available for my area yet...so that point is mute for me.

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              • louisboscoL
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                well, if you were to get the new 12 with 5G, it will future proof your phone should 5G become available in the near future, especially if you're not the kind of person to upgrade every year.

                as for me, i upgrade yearly, the XS was the only year i skipped. i just can't decide this year if i should stick with the pro or go for the max and see what the sensor shift OIS is like. 5G is around the two countries i frequent most so that isn't really a discussion point for me. i will only get a 5G plan when i feel the prices are right..

                "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                • dinobarnesberlinD
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                  @louisbosco:

                  well, if you were to get the new 12 with 5G, it will future proof your phone should 5G become available in the near future, especially if you're not the kind of person to upgrade every year.

                  as for me, i upgrade yearly, the XS was the only year i skipped. i just can't decide this year if i should stick with the pro or go for the max and see what the sensor shift OIS is like. 5G is around the two countries i frequent most so that isn't really a discussion point for me. i will only get a 5G plan when i feel the prices are right..

                  Since I usually hang on to mine more than a year, sometimes even longer if im happy with how things are running–--I will wait to hear more info from the people who will review theirs as they receive them.
                  Have to agree though--the max might be super nice.

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                  • louisboscoL
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                    @dinobarnesberlin:

                    Since I usually hang on to mine more than a year, sometimes even longer if im happy with how things are running–--I will wait to hear more info from the people who will review theirs as they receive them.
                    Have to agree though--the max might be super nice.

                    i've gone from a normal size iphone to their plus and finally back down to the normal sized 11pro. actually got very used to the sizes of the X and 11pro. can't imagine going back bigger again…

                    "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                      My life just got so much easier lol [emoji23]

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                      • GraemeG
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                        So what do people think of the new Macs with the ARM-based Apple M1 CPU?

                        I don't know what software support is going to be like on the new chips in the short term. Apple has played the transition close to its chest, as they're prone to secrecy, so that's given developers less time to prepare.

                        My main programs (outside of browsers) are Office and Android Studio. I believe that Microsoft have ported the former, but Jetbrains and Google haven't released a version of the latter.

                        Overall, they look interesting machines. I'm tempted by one, particularly as I desperately need to upgrade my laptop. (I've got a six year old Surface Pro!)

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                        • goosehdG
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                          @Graeme We are going to get a new laptop (with the last of the Intel chips), and try to give everyone a few years to get the bugs worked out with Apples new chip.

                          I hope that the transition is short termed and bug free, but my gut is telling me I should wait.

                          "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                          • GraemeG
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                            @goosehd a friend always tells me, "Never buy version 1.0 of anything!"

                            A lot depends on how far advanced software vendors are with the migration. I think that Microsoft and Adobe had early access, as they were showing off versions of their apps at the initial announcement, but the second tier might suffer.

                            The other thing is that Apple haven't taken advantage of the form factors that the ARM chips will allow. I believe that the new MacBooks reuse the old chassis from the Intel models. But if you look at a Surface Pro X versus a regular Surface, or Samsung Galaxy Book S versus anything else, they're incredibly skinny. The rumour I heard is that the next generation of devices will be a lot more radical.

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                            • GraemeG
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                              The state of play for ARM comparability.

                              All the apps and games Apple promises for Arm-based Macs

                              I'm surprised that Apple didn't publicise the fact that they're shifting architecture sooner. Or maybe Adobe, Microsoft, etc were given a heads up.

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                              • louisboscoL
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                                @Graeme

                                they did announce they were shifting architecture way back in june when they announced all the new OS for the year.. Big Sur, iOS14 etc. they did mention that the full transition from intel to apple silicon will take place in a span of about 2 years. they also released their developer kit in june this year where app developers were able to code and redesign apps to suit this new OS and chip set.

                                overall, i'm not convinced until i see the full line up of products from the base to top end variants. the upside to ARM architecture for them lies in the native software being designed and developed for their chipset which allows it to be more efficient and possible more powerful, compared to those that run ARM hardware with an external OS. the downside is that now it has a greater control of price in regards to upgrade since most of the processing unit is not modifiable. i think it'll be interesting to look forward to the iMacs/desktops that will be eventually be released with their ARM chips to see where their full potential lies since it doesn't have to factor in efficiency cores like their laptops

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                                • GraemeG
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                                  I don't know how complicated the migration from ARM to Intel is, but given the lack of compatible apps, I suspect that it isn't trivial. Software development is a slow process.

                                  I think that the ARM chips have a lot of potential, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to get one now. Which means that I'll probably end up buying one next week! 😉

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                                  • louisboscoL
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                                    i think it will be a good idea to wait until at least next year @Graeme

                                    the current model are just base models. i'm sure you'll be better off with a higher end model and chip given your particular set of skills. most apps currently are being built to handle intel and apple silicon, i believe. it'll be at least 5-8 years from now before they phase out the intel macs so there's still a need for backward compatibility and support for intel until then..

                                    "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                                    • goosehdG
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                                      @Graeme @louisbosco As I mentioned, my wife and I purchased a new laptop from Apple yesterday with the Intel chip.  Our hopes are to give everyone a chance to make their software more compatible with Apple’s new chip and as Graeme mentioned to allow apple to work on the chassis to maximize the use of it.

                                      One thing to note:  In Canada, there is a decent price savings between two similar builds by purchasing the proprietary chip made by them over the Intel chip.

                                      At this time, I just don’t think that the savings are worth it.  My $.02.

                                      Good luck.

                                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                      • louisboscoL
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                                        @goosehd that's a wise decision. i wouldn't recommend the apple silicon models just yet, even if they're supposedly more powerful than the higher end intel 16"

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                                        • organisysO
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                                          From the architecture perspective, sharing the Memory bus amongst all the subsystems is a very good way to achieve performance optimisations.

                                          I can see why they would have been frustrated with Intel. They are expensive, and they have not innovated enough in many areas.

                                          The fact that they were able to release a fan-less Air speaks volumes about how inefficient Intel architecture is in terms of power being wasted.

                                          What I am curious about now is what they can do in terms of performance for more of a Workstation application, where battery life is irrelevant, (iMac, iMac Pro, Mac Pro) as the ARM Architecture was originally predominantly designed for low power usage, rather than out and out performance; in fact, when it was first designed and tested, it ran without the power supply working…

                                          https://www.theregister.com/Print/2012/05/03/unsung_heroes_of_tech_arm_creators_sophie_wilson_and_steve_furber/

                                          Pride of Japan :-)

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                                          • louisboscoL
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                                            @organisys:

                                            From the architecture perspective, sharing the Memory bus amongst all the subsystems is a very good way to achieve performance optimisations.

                                            only if the OS is co-developed as a native system, which in this case, it is. many ARM laptops out there aren't able to achieve maximum performance and efficiency because they're using a windows OS which isn't developed and coded natively..

                                            @organisys:

                                            What I am curious about now is what they can do in terms of performance for more of a Workstation application, where battery life is irrelevant, (iMac, iMac Pro, Mac Pro) as the ARM Architecture was originally predominantly designed for low power usage, rather than out and out performance; in fact, when it was first designed and tested, it ran without the power supply working…

                                            Same here. Everything introduced recently is only at the base level. I'm curious to see the further upgrades the MacBook Pro line gets with its 15/16" models, not to mention the higher end iMacs too..

                                            "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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