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    Watches - another OCD problem

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      bubbapest
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      What's your motivation for collecting, gents?

      Bragging rights (Rare, or expensive watches)?
      Aesthetics?
      Practicality (Easy access to the most accurate time possible)?
      Appreciation of the engineering?

      I'm sure that for the four options I've listed, everyone has a bit of all for motivating them in their collection… But which one, singular point is your biggest motivator of the four?

      im a little late but here's my story
      i always wanted to wear a watch but didnt really like any, thought they were all too small and looked weird on my wrist
      i then thought i had never had one nice enough and so i never really got attached, so i was on huckberry and saw a seiko skx, thought it looked dope, tried it and meh, still thought it was too small
      then some politics happened in 2016 and i still reallllly wanted a watch and justified an expensive purchase on a piece of jewelry i could sell in a pinch cause i was paranoid - bought the iwc big pilot.  it also looked big enough on my wrist and felt i finally found a watch that matched my style
      …then i got the itch
      bought a panerai radiomir, cause i was addicted, but then to justify it i put it on a brown strap so i could at least match (justifying the purchase in my brain)
      then the radiomir runs fast... and it got annoying.  so i started to care about the mechanical aspect of the watch. 
      now i just want to get a nice two tone date just for a dress watch.  and then lastly i'll get a dive watch, cause technically i already have one and i cant really justify it. 
      ...but when i do, i'll prob get either a fifty fathoms or a ploprof.

      so.  i'll go all of em.  i think i got semi expensive taste, i like the fact that they're well made amazing machines (some more than others), which leads me to nice watches that i can subtly show off.

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      • GraemeG
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        @bubbapest how do you find the accuracy of the IWC Big Pilot? I've heard that they don't keep time that well, and since you sound as OCD about that as I am.

        Accuracy aside, I do like the 150th Anniversary Big Pilot's Big Date watch. It is a different movement to yours, though.

        And the Big Pilot's Heritage 48 that they did last year.

        If you're after the most accurate mechanical watch, I'd wait and see if Zenith make a production version of the Defy Lab. They did a very limited run of ten last year, and hopefully will make a production run in the near future. The oscillator originally ran at 15 Hz, buy apparently has now been overclocked to 18 Hz. I can think of a handful that run at 5 Hz, and fewer beyond that.

        Get one in a two-tone case, and it might work as a dress watch. 😛

        Ploprof versus Fifty Fathoms strikes me as a tough choice. Omega regulate their watches to tighter than Chronometer standards, so if accuracy is a big thing, then there's your answer.

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          bubbapest
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          @Graeme:

          @bubbapest how do you find the accuracy of the IWC Big Pilot? I've heard that they don't keep time that well, and since you sound as OCD about that as I am.

          Accuracy aside, I do like the 150th Anniversary Big Pilot's Big Date watch. It is a different movement to yours, though.

          And the Big Pilot's Heritage 48 that they did last year.

          If you're after the most accurate mechanical watch, I'd wait and see if Zenith make a production version of the Defy Lab. They did a very limited run of ten last year, and hopefully will make a production run in the near future. The oscillator originally ran at 15 Hz, buy apparently has now been overclocked to 18 Hz. I can think of a handful that run at 5 Hz, and fewer beyond that.

          Get one in a two-tone case, and it might work as a dress watch. 😛

          Ploprof versus Fifty Fathoms strikes me as a tough choice. Omega regulate their watches to tighter than Chronometer standards, so if accuracy is a big thing, then there's your answer.

          i honestly havent really noticed the IWC losing that much time.  at least not nearly as much as i have the radiomir.  gotta set the radiomirs time i'd say like 1x a week and its off by 3 or so minutes/sometimes 5.  at least its fast and not slow though.

          i do love the fact that its a 7 day power reserve (my radiomir is 8 days winding which is cool too).  i hate setting date complications, so if i wear my radiomir or just dont feel like wearing one i usually can keep the iwc set correctly and pick it up 5 days later.

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          • GraemeG
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            Thanks @bubbapest .

            I'd heard that Panerais could be inaccurate, but three to five minutes per week is terrible. Rolex's standard is +/- 2 seconds per day, or a worst case of 14 seconds out a week.

            The long power reserve sounds cool. I'm into having one watch, so it wouldn't make much odds on an automatic, though it would save me winding a manual so often.

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              @Graeme Yes the Mare Nostrum, to be precise, the Models without Numbers on the Bezel PAM603 and PAM300.

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              • GraemeG
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                @Steffen the PAM603 is the one I like. Shame they cover up the oh-so-sexy Minerva movement with a solid caseback, though.

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                • Q
                  QuantumMechanic
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                  Have had this Panerai 233 for nearly 10 years now, but this strap is plenty older and dates back to my first Panerai.

                  Mario Paci strap. Just love the patina and the way it has aged. MP was the original Panerai Pre-V designer of Panerai straps.

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                  • neph93N
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                    ^ Can I be the first to say, «Fekk me, that is beautiful»?

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                    We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                    • GraemeG
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                      I agree with @neph93 that it looks great.

                      I'm surprised that the strap has lasted so well. I had a bridle leather one on my Tender watch, which cracked and split after a few years. I need to source a replacement.

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                      • louisboscoL
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                        oh panerai is like my guilty pleasure. looks beautiful..

                        "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

                        • Harvey Specter
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                        • DougNgD
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                          Decided a strap change was in order for my long weekend in New Orleans

                          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                            QuantumMechanic
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                            Panerai OEM straps are great, but strap collecting can be a problem with Panerai. Particularly when there are some great strap makers out there…MP being one...they last forever.

                            A few more…

                            On the wrist…

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                            • AppfaffA
                              Appfaff
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                              Beautiful watches QM

                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                                QuantumMechanic
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                                ^ Thanks.

                                I’m considering parting with several and maybe getting something really special.

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                                • Sheepdog149S
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                                  Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

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                                  • Matty123M
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                                    Luminor GMT with Gaurded goods Reverse Shell Cordovan strap. I’m disappointed with the quality of the strap.

                                    Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                    • Q
                                      QuantumMechanic
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                                      ^ your 88 deserves better.

                                      I know Greg (for full disclosure) and am a fan of his straps https://www.gregstevensdesign.com/watch-straps.html

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                                      • DstaufferD
                                        Dstauffer
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                                        Deluca natural Shell Cordovan on my PAM212….I have be playing with the idea of getting a NATO strap, but I really am loving this one.

                                        You won’t be satisfied until you wear Iron Heart.

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                                        • JDelageJ
                                          JDelage
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                                          What watches do you think have the most interesting display back / skeletonized dials, sub ~$5k…?

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                                          • ChrisC
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                                            As far as I'm concerned, the most interesting movements to look at are manual wind chronographs.  No recommendations on skeletonized watches, but a Speedmaster Professional with a display back is in that range.

                                            Or you could get something like this for about 10% of that.

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