These 888s are not tailored and never washed/soaked. I had worn them twice to the office, but am not going to be able to break these in. They are great and wish they fit me -
Waist- 17” measured across
Front rise- 11.5”
Rear rise- 16.5”
Thigh- 12.5"
Knee- 9"
Hem- 8”
Inseam- 36”
