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    • scooterS
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      @Mustafa911 … @BloodnThunder is spot on, here.

      I'll add, they are a different animal than the IH-OD, altogether.  I find the IH to be a more saturated black, undoubtedly from the intensity of the over-dyeing process. The PBJ first arrived a dark black, but in the light they had quite a peek through indigo hue, and the black dye sheds far more rapidly. I imagine this is due to a far less intense, and more superficial over-dyeing process. I think this all makes sense if you consider, with the IH all possible shrinkage is removed in the OD process, while the PBJ still shrink a considerable amount.

      Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

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        @scooter:

        @Mustafa911 … @BloodnThunder is spot on, here.

        I'll add, they are a different animal than the IH-OD, altogether.  I find the IH to be a more saturated black, undoubtedly from the intensity of the over-dyeing process. The PBJ first arrived a dark black, but in the light they had quite a peek through indigo hue, and the black dye sheds far more rapidly. I imagine this is due to a far less intense, and more superficial over-dyeing process. I think this all makes sense if you consider, with the IH all possible shrinkage is removed in the OD process, while the PBJ still shrink a considerable amount.

        That’s great , I saw bloondnthunder picture and the denim looks amazing . Actually I like PBJ in raw state .  I always admired their double indigo denims. I own 8 IH denims (18oz-25oz) Maybe it’s time to try PBJ 18oz. I don’t like anything lighter than 18oz

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        • scooterS
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          @Mustafa911:

          That’s great , I saw bloondnthunder picture and the denim looks amazing . Actually I like PBJ in raw state .  I always admired their double indigo denims. I own 8 IH denims (18oz-25oz) Maybe it’s time to try PBJ 18oz. I don’t like anything lighter than 18oz

          You're on the right track, here. I've got 2 pairs of their 14oz denim (purple and cobalt wefts). While they hold their own, the heavier weight, more substantial slub, and outright character of the 18oz can't be beat.

          Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

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          • Morose_PenguinM
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            They're dry 🙂

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            • Max PowerM
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              @RoxRocks86:

              I had fun flipping thru this thread and seeing everyone’s PBJ’s. Just got the XX-012 from BiG. Love the leaf detail on the back of the buttons. Fit pics to come as they’ve just been soaked.

              @RoxRocks86
              I just received a raw pair of 012s as well - could you please shed soem light on how much they shrank? I ould Need a decent amount of Stretch and thus think of washing them at 60°C right away…unlss they already shrink a good amount just from soaking

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              > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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              • RoxRocks86R
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                @Max Power  Sorry, may not be the best to answer on shrinkage. Which area(s) are you concerned about shrinking? I got a size 26 which had a 27.5” waist pre-soak. Fit was kinda snug on dry fit so did a cold soak. Had some slight shrinkage and could barely get them on after they dried. They did stretch quite a bit tho. The waist got an inch of stretch and could probably get a little more but I wear a belt. Not sure on the inseam as I’m quite short and always need to cut a chunk off.

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                • Max PowerM
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                  @RoxRocks86 thanks for the reply! I need the whole jeans to shrink, but mostly the diaper ass and waist. Will try to take some pictures later, but im confident that they will fit if i only wash them hot enough.

                  @elclintor:

                  > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                  • RoxRocks86R
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                    Hoping for the best on the hot wash! 🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽

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                    • Max PowerM
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                      Heres the presoak fit

                      @elclintor:

                      > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                      • Max PowerM
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                        I think they fit great…a bit short but when the waist stretches theyll sot a bit lower. Did two 40 degree washes

                        @elclintor:

                        > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                        • den1mheadD
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                          Great jeans great fit [emoji106]

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                            @den1mhead:

                            Great jeans great fit [emoji106]

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                            They look great Flo… great combo

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                            • RoxRocks86R
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                              Looking good in the xx-012’s @Max Power !  😎 Love the texture & deep indigo on these.

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                              • Max PowerM
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                                Thank you all. I really love the structure and the fit - it's just so hot I will have to wait a bit until I wear them.

                                @elclintor:

                                > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                  This 18oz AizoM AI is beautiful !!
                                  Love the fabric and fit , the fit is similar to IH 777 but a slightly higher rise . Plus I love the raw fabric. Just gave a soak and hung dry!!

                                  The fabric is so amazing In person , never seen any fabric like this !!

                                  I ended up getting PBJ 6084 , 18oz “rain “ denim jacket as well from Vater & sohn. 6084 has same fabric as A1. the guys at V&S are awesome and helpful. The jacket is on its way to the US

                                  Some pictures !!

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                                  • Max PowerM
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                                    ^I tried on the jacket at the V&S shop. It's truly an amazing Piece - was very tempted to get it.

                                    @elclintor:

                                    > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                      @Max:

                                      ^I tried on the jacket at the V&S shop. It's truly an amazing Piece - was very tempted to get it.

                                      What held you back ? Curious to hear
                                      Your thoughts

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                                      • Max PowerM
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                                        The funds…and that I already have a FC Type II, an IH Type I, another IH Type 3 etc.  😃

                                        @elclintor:

                                        > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                        • UnTuckedU
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                                          I just made an awesome find on IG…

                                          Someone selling a blanket lined PBJ peacoat for $79

                                          Could be a ripoff, but I'm willing to risk that for $80!




                                          In search of:
                                          IHV-04, med.
                                          IHSH-185, large
                                          IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                                          • UnTuckedU
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                                            I just made an awesome find on IG…

                                            Someone selling a blanket lined PBJ peacoat for $79

                                            Could be a ripoff, but I'm willing to risk that for $80!




                                            In search of:
                                            IHV-04, med.
                                            IHSH-185, large
                                            IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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