Pocketknives/Kitchen Knives/Fixed Blades
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@Geo:
I'm with K on this until we get to frequency of use - which to me implies carrying it about on your person - which is as near as damn a no go in UK and actually even more rigorously enforced in Scotland . . . basically makes the package a whole lot less attractive
Wow…
I had no idea. I live in a semi rural area in Northern California and I'm not exagerrating when I say that EVERYONE I know carries a knife. It's like an essential accesory around here.
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@Geo:
I'm with K on this until we get to frequency of use - which to me implies carrying it about on your person - which is as near as damn a no go in UK and actually even more rigorously enforced in Scotland . . . basically makes the package a whole lot less attractive
You guys gotta trust me on this one…even if you cannot legally carry it on your person...it will be awesome when you just need to cut something (in your car, kitchen, garage, shop)
More details to come...
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@Geo:
I'm with K on this until we get to frequency of use - which to me implies carrying it about on your person - which is as near as damn a no go in UK and actually even more rigorously enforced in Scotland . . . basically makes the package a whole lot less attractive
Wow…
I had no idea. I live in a semi rural area in Northern California and I'm not exagerrating when I say that EVERYONE I know carries a knife. It's like an essential accesory around here.
Is it actually illegal to carry a knife over there?As I understand it, only non locking folders are allowed
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yeah - knives, guns et al . . . nearly everybody in the UK is just dying of old age - fortunately alcohol, saturated and tran-fats, and range of drugs have helped combat the rising average age.
the law is quite specific about what sort of knife you may NOT carry
_1. You may NOT carry a knife with a fixed blade of ANY length in the United Kingdom without reasonable cause. Fixed blade includes lock knives!
2. You may NOT carry any knife of any length, fixed blade or otherwise, which can be considered to be a fighting or combat knife (through its design or even its name).
3. You may NOT carry a knife of any of the following sorts: switchblades, automatics or 'flick-knives', balisongs or 'butterfly knives', push daggers, gravity knives, belt buckle knives, sword canes, or knuckle-duster knives, any knife not readily detectable by x-ray or metal detectors (unless that knife is used for food preparation), any knife designed to be disguised as something else (like canes or pens which are actually knives, etc ). All the above are prohibited for sale in the UK (so it's illegal to own them, let alone carry them).
4. You may NOT carry a knife of any kind onto school property.
The only knife you can LEGALLY carry around with you in the UK is a non-locking folding knife with a blade of 3" or less, unless you have reasonable cause (which can mean a hobby, but usually means work). Moreover, in Scotland you must provide proof of your reasonable cause in the form of ID showing your profession/trade._
That's the letter of the law side of things, but in practice it's up to the police officer(s) concerned what's likely to happen to you if stopped with a knife. If you're off to the woods with a survival/bushcraft knife or going fishing or diving or off to your boat or a chef going to work etc, then they'll not be interested. If you're wandering round town shopping, out for a drink, at a football match (you get the picture) then they'll most likely confiscate the knife and may arrest you.
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@Geo:
yeah - knives, guns et al . . . nearly everybody in the UK is just dying of old age - fortunately alcohol, saturated and tran-fats, and range of drugs have helped combat the rising average age.
the law is quite specific about what sort of knife you may NOT carry
_1. You may NOT carry a knife with a fixed blade of ANY length in the United Kingdom without reasonable cause. Fixed blade includes lock knives!
2. You may NOT carry any knife of any length, fixed blade or otherwise, which can be considered to be a fighting or combat knife (through its design or even its name).
3. You may NOT carry a knife of any of the following sorts: switchblades, automatics or 'flick-knives', balisongs or 'butterfly knives', push daggers, gravity knives, belt buckle knives, sword canes, or knuckle-duster knives, any knife not readily detectable by x-ray or metal detectors (unless that knife is used for food preparation), any knife designed to be disguised as something else (like canes or pens which are actually knives, etc ). All the above are prohibited for sale in the UK (so it's illegal to own them, let alone carry them).
4. You may NOT carry a knife of any kind onto school property.
The only knife you can LEGALLY carry around with you in the UK is a non-locking folding knife with a blade of 3" or less, unless you have reasonable cause (which can mean a hobby, but usually means work). Moreover, in Scotland you must provide proof of your reasonable cause in the form of ID showing your profession/trade._
That's the letter of the law side of things, but in practice it's up to the police officer(s) concerned what's likely to happen to you if stopped with a knife. If you're off to the woods with a survival/bushcraft knife or going fishing or diving or off to your boat or a chef going to work etc, then they'll not be interested. If you're wandering round town shopping, out for a drink, at a football match (you get the picture) then they'll most likely confiscate the knife and may arrest you.
That about covers it! You also can't keep any knives on the 'you need a reason' list in your car without the same just cause and reason, it counts as on your person.
No samurai swords either, unless it's traditionally/hand made. It's ok to buy a machete though, 'cos obviously they're not dangerous or worrying…
I still buy the occasional non-carry knife, or fixed blade, just for the fun of it, but these days I really like to have something I can use on a daily basis without the Rozzers coming for me.
Hell, I got stopped in London once by a community support officer for filing my nails with the nail file on a Swiss army mini-camp in a public place.
M.
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@DENIM:
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TAD Gear stuffOne of those looks like a lightsaber. Now, if Doug can get us a forum Jedi weapon sorted, that would be grand. I'd risk the long arm of the law for that.
Cool collection Denim Sailor, I'm now too embarrassed to post my rather lacklustre selection!
M.
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@Geo:
i genuinely was given a bit of a talking to about my lagioule corkscrew by a policeman obviously with nothing better to do . . . the 'blade' is about and inch and half foil cutter
Well, you might have run amok and peeled someone or something. Screw-caps for wine bottles from now on, it's the only way to protect society from the cork screw wielding maniacs!
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denim sailor should be denim ninja. really beautiful set-up u got there. since i don't have opposable thumbs i try my best to stay away from sharp objects.
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@DENIM:
M, post your stuff this forum is not an uptight pissing contest lets see your stuff
Will do! I'll sort some out tomorrow. Also, I've just ordered some new SAKs for my girlfriend and myself from that Custom Scale Division website, with different wooden scales. German ash for me, Hawaiian Koa for the lady. Should be with me in about a week. The guy I dealt with, Luke, was an absolute pleasure to order from.
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@Geo:
i genuinely was given a bit of a talking to about my lagioule corkscrew by a policeman obviously with nothing better to do . . . the 'blade' is about and inch and half foil cutter
Well, you might have run amok and peeled someone or something. Screw-caps for wine bottles from now on, it's the only way to protect society from the cork screw wielding maniacs!
would have a lot less bothered had I used it and downed a couple of bottles first! or maybe that would've made it worse
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DS - you'd totally get about 15 consecutive life sentences for that collection . . . you're a bad man
No, not really football violence (there isn't even much of that now) - just tough line on stamping out violence of any sort . . . rules are similar in a lot of europe
A lot depends on the attitude of local police forces too
