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    pillowPANTS
    Joined: 24 Jun 2011

    Wrestling is def "part" of the sport. I just think that a TD shouldnt be scored so high if it didnt do anything. If its a big slam, right on. Or if u take someone down and actually beat on them or try subs, good for u. I just hate that the lil cheese TD's that johnny did were what won him the fight. I know guys should be able to stop them but some dudes are just really good at doing them and exploit the point system to get a W. Look at GSP fuck. The guy is a great martial artist but is affraid to actually fight anymore so instead of doing so he "lays and prays" for 25mins and gets wins. Thats not fighting IMO

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      bagley920
      Joined: 10 Oct 2011

      It's what put him over the top but he landed plenty of hard strikes too. Even Condit admitted that he couldn't stop the takedowns and that's why he lost. Don't think that it drops Condit IMO

      If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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        pillowPANTS
        Joined: 24 Jun 2011

        He def landed some good strikes but so did condit. The TDs were weak, didnt do any damage and johnny didnt do anything with them. All in all besides the TDs i think condit fought a better and harder fight. Judging is pretty sad when all 3 went to hendricks. I could atleast see it being a split but def not unanimous for hendricks. Both guys are great but i hate seeing fights won/lost by weak takedowns. Those dont win in the street or the cage as far as im concerned

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          Lucifer
          Joined: 31 Aug 2011

          The TDs were weak

          The takedowns were great. He took Condit down at will and he controlled a very good grappler trying to be offensive off his back for several minutes during the fight. I would also argue that Hendricks controlled the fight on the feet. He had far more hard hits and rocked Condit several times. I agree completely with this analysis: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1570615-ufc-158-st-pierre-vs-diaz-the-jack-slack-breakdown

          Seize the day and don't you cry.

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            pillowPANTS
            Joined: 24 Jun 2011

            The TDs were def NOT great lol. Everyone was lazy and slow. Condit was stupid to not stop them i agree. All im trying to get across is that TDs like that shouldnt be worth so much in the eyes of the judges. They didnt do any damage and hendricks didnt do anything once he got condit to the ground, no gnp and no sub attempts. Condit did more damage off of his back then hendricks did on top. He was only taking him down for points and i think that needs to be changed in the rules. I am a long time MMA fan and i appreciate all aspects of the sport but i cant get behind people winning on account of TDs (unless they are slams or are done for a reason eg. set up subs or gnp). At the end of the day the condit/hendricks fight was great, i was just disapointed how the judges scored it 3rds to 0 due to insignificant TDs

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              Flash
              Joined: 19 Oct 2010

              Anyone watching wsof on the 23rd ?

              FS  FT.IHSW04 size s , samurai loopwheeled tee ,fullcount flannel      http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3997.0

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                pillowPANTS
                Joined: 24 Jun 2011

                Already set on the PVR but probably watch on sunday instead

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                  Flash
                  Joined: 19 Oct 2010

                  just read that the wsof event tonight is in danger of being canceled , something about the cage not being up to code ?
                  realy hope they get it sorted out ( fingers crossed )

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                    bagley920
                    Joined: 10 Oct 2011

                    That should be something that can easily be fixed, just a matter of whether they wanna pay for it

                    If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

                    last edited by 23 Mar 2013, 15:55 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Flash
                      Joined: 19 Oct 2010

                      thats what i was thinking but apparently they were flying parts in overnight from vegas

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                        Lucifer
                        Joined: 31 Aug 2011

                        Almost forgot, look who I got to train with last weekend:

                        Seize the day and don't you cry.

                        last edited by 24 Mar 2013, 11:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          Hemi
                          Joined: 8 Aug 2010

                          What do you guy's think of Mark Hunt?  He's a cult hero here in New Zealand.

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                            bagley920
                            Joined: 10 Oct 2011

                            @Lucifer:

                            Almost forgot, look who I got to train with last weekend:

                            Is that Dean?

                            If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                              bagley920
                              Joined: 10 Oct 2011

                              @Hemi:

                              What do you guy's think of Mark Hunt?  He's a cult hero here in New Zealand.

                              Good fighter but against JDS, no chance in hell

                              If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

                              last edited by 24 Mar 2013, 13:39 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                Lucifer
                                Joined: 31 Aug 2011

                                Dean Lister indeed!

                                Seize the day and don't you cry.

                                last edited by 24 Mar 2013, 17:09 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  bagley920
                                  Joined: 10 Oct 2011

                                  That's awesome dude. I've met Spencer Fisher once as he's from NC but that's it

                                  If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

                                  last edited by 24 Mar 2013, 17:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Hemi
                                    Joined: 8 Aug 2010

                                    @bagley920:

                                    @Hemi:

                                    What do you guy's think of Mark Hunt?  He's a cult hero here in New Zealand.

                                    Good fighter but against JDS, no chance in hell

                                    … he's got a punches chance?

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                                      Lucifer
                                      Joined: 31 Aug 2011

                                      @Hemi:

                                      @bagley920:

                                      @Hemi:

                                      What do you guy's think of Mark Hunt?  He's a cult hero here in New Zealand.

                                      Good fighter but against JDS, no chance in hell

                                      … he's got a punches chance?

                                      I would say that JDS better not underestimate the striking of Hunt. While JDS is faster, has longer reach, a far better groundgame, Hunt has a more versatile standup-game than JDS (JDS pretty much does two combos, he just does those two very well..) and he can really put the lights out on anyone. Would be an upset though. Considering putting some money on Hunt for old time's sake .. 🙂

                                      Seize the day and don't you cry.

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                                        Hemi
                                        Joined: 8 Aug 2010

                                        It would be an awesome upset!

                                        last edited by 25 Mar 2013, 10:02 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          summ3rhays
                                          Joined: 28 Nov 2012

                                          Ran into Forrest Griffin on the way to the TUF finale. Chatted over beers and burgers.

                                          IG: summ3rhays & Indigobleed

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