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    • tatmantallT
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      Nice… Hadn't noticed this thread before. Currently studying Shakespeare and just finished reading _Much Ado About Nothing_and also picked up Stephen Hawking's The Grand Design today after a discussion regarding wave particle duality that blew my mind. 🙂

      "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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        @Chris:

        Are those the Daughter/Mistress/Servant of the Empire ones?

        Man, I loved all of those Riftwar books when I was a kid.

        They are. I'm enjoying the political rigidity and subtly of the Tsurani, and in general the series' focus on character development.

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        • Sugar MountainS
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          I am currently reading Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace and expect to be reading the book for some time (it's a biggie). So good though - incomparable really to any other writer I know.

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          • SeulS
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            Thinking of buying… Would this officially make me a nerd though?..

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            • michaeljcrM
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              @Snowy:

              @Chris:

              Are those the Daughter/Mistress/Servant of the Empire ones?

              Man, I loved all of those Riftwar books when I was a kid.

              They are. I'm enjoying the political rigidity and subtly of the Tsurani, and in general the series' focus on character development.

              Those six are great, but I'd proceed with caution after that. I read a few more, then gave up. The original trilogy remains one of my all time favourites though, although in fairness I haven't read them for a VERY long time!

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              • ChrisC
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                Yep, I'd say that nails it.  My take on Feist's work, too.  Magician is a sentimental favorite of mine- Mom bought it as a Christmas present for Dad when it was first published, so I read it several times when I was growing up.

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                • ChrisC
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                  @Seul:

                  Thinking of buying… Would this officially make me a nerd though?..

                  Yes.  Yes it would.

                  Not as much of a nerd as if you bought them in hardback, like I did, but still…

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                  • michaeljcrM
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                    I'm a professional nerd, so I say go for it. Join us. Join us. Join us. Join us. Join us. Join us. Join us…

                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                    • ChrisC
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                      Absolutely.  It's fun over here on the nerd side…

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                      • emceeQE
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                        It would indeed Seul. I picked all of them up last summer.  Just to reiterate, join us….

                        @Sugar:

                        I am currently reading Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace and expect to be reading the book for some time (it's a biggie). So good though - incomparable really to any other writer I know.

                        I'm like half way through this right now.  Great read…

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                        • SeulS
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                          Let's see: michaeljcr, Chris, and emceeQ… Yeah, fuck it: that's good company... Buying them asap. Not in hardcover though... Bit too dear...  😉

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                            @michaeljcr:

                            Those six are great, but I'd proceed with caution after that. I read a few more, then gave up. The original trilogy remains one of my all time favourites though, although in fairness I haven't read them for a VERY long time!

                            Appreciate it, I was very keen to read them all seeing how long/wide the saga goes. I'll tread carefully after #6. I really should get back to ITIL Service Transition study anyhow 😉 :|

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                            • RedStripeR
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                              reading this at the moment, its good.

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                              • Sugar MountainS
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                                ^ Ha, that brings back a few memories. Rollins was my hero when I was in my early twenties (still a huge fan of his work in Flag and Rollins Band).

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                                • derivative666D
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                                  highly reccomend Seth Godin "Linchpin: Are You Indispensable?"

                                  "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

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                                  • tatmantallT
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                                    How does game of thrones compare to LOTR. I am not a fan of tolkein's ability to drag pieces of the story out for excruciating amounts of time…. It was a real battle to make it through his series and I am not familiar with the styles of GOT series author...

                                    "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                                    • michaeljcrM
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                                      I think the main thing to remember about Tolkien, is that he was a writer of his time, not to mention one of the first modern fantasy writers. His style matches the age he was writing in, and his generation, not to mention the inspiration from the various histories, myths  and sagas he drew ideas from. By today's standards, it's quite slow and methodical.

                                      Martin shares many aspects of what we now call 'Epic' or 'High' fantasy, a genre arguably created by Tolkien, in that he writes on a grand level, with multiple narrative strands and a huge story arc. However, Martin writes for the modern audience. His prose style is modern, his action more visceral and, crucially, he has many more characters with their own narrative strand. This means he's constantly moving various pieces of the story along from many angles, and just when you get hooked on one, he swaps onto the next. This has a duel affect, both driving you on to get back to that character, while also developing a need to get back to the current character. It's almost cruel, but very enjoyable.

                                      Also, Martin has said he drew some inspiration from The Twelve Caesars, and so we have a lot of politics, betrayals and in fighting. It's also not a cheerful read - it's bleak, captivatingly so, and nobody is safe. Women, children and pets - no one is safe. The sense of immediate peril is evident through much of the book, and gives it an urgency not present in Tolkien's books. At least in my opinion.

                                      Or, to paraphrase Clerks 2, Martin's story isn't a series of books about walking…

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                                      • tatmantallT
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                                        Thank you michaeljcr. sounds very intriguing, I appreciate you taking the time for the well thought out description. It sounds like I need to look into the series

                                        "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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                                        • SeulS
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                                          Yeah that review did it - buying those fucking A song of… books.

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                                          • ChrisC
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                                            Can't add much to Michael's analysis (he does this sort of thing for a living, after all), but I will say that when I read LOTR, it was a slow, tough slog.  The Song of Ice & Fire series, especially the first 3 books, ripped along, even on subsequent re-readings.

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