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      beautiful_FrEaK
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      That's the funny thing. YOU have to prove what they are worth. Gifts and small orders are fine but just to a certain value (around 50€ IIRC). Anything above that, than you would have still pay 19% VAT. If the total value of the item exceeds 150€ you have to pay the 19% VAT + the customs tax (12% for cotton products as an example). Oh..19% for the shipping costs of course too…

      You know they aren't quite dumb and just because someone marked a little 'x' in the box for 'gift', doesn't mean they wouldn't investigate.

      Surely not every package ends up at the custom office. The all go through a first custom check at Frankfurt airport and there will be decided if you get the package directly without any customs or if you have to pick it up at your local custom office and you have to open it in front of a custom guy and show him the correct papers.

      You can luck out on customs and maybe 40% of my orders didn't end up at the local office but directly at my door.
      Only once I could convince one of the custom officers it is a gift. And I really paid nothing. But only because there was a hand written note in the package and the custom guy was too lazy to google for prices I believe.

      Living on the countryside helps here I guess. Heard some horrible storys from fellow German denim lovers living in Munich, Hamburg or Berlin where the custom guys are really tough to deal with.

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        damn that's rough

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          beautiful_FrEaK
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          It really is. When Atzec (from Sufu and Mynudies) ordered something and he hadn't an invoice with him, the lady at the custom office googled and foung the pair on BiG and used that price.

          Another member 501lover/501cult (also here but I can't recall his screen name) bought some used and trashed Nudies and the guys at the custom office in Berlin didn't believe the value he stated and claimed these jeans have to be some crazy expensive designer stuff, not 2nd hand jeans. Issue went to the court and is still not decided yet (been a year or so).

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          • kit99barK
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            I am digging the s5000 bkxbk that BiG got in recently.
            http://blueingreensoho.com/site/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=10784&category_id=45&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=62

            RAWWAR 2012!

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            • kit99barK
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              BF, the BKxBK material doesn't shrink much and stretch a lot right?  It looks like I could do a 29 or even 28 in these.

              RAWWAR 2012!

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              • FOXYF
                FOXY
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                @beautiful_FrEaK:

                …
                Ok..now we do the math together:
                Item price is 52,500 Yen. Shipping would be (as this is a 24oz denim) around 4000 Yen: and now + 19% VAT and 12% custom tax for cotton products. If you can show them the exact quote for the shipping, only 19% VAT will be applied on this.

                So the "cheapest" price would be 68775 Yen for the jeans + 4760 Yen for shipping = 73535 Yen which is roughly 730 €
                ...

                Or you pre-order through Take5. Based on my experience from last years AI model it can go like this:

                52,500¥ and no shipping (IIRC) multiplied by Take5's standard exchange rate into HK$ minus VIP rebate (20%) plus shipping from HK. Now you would only have to find a way to get this through customs…

                (sometimes Take5 can not give VIP rebate on special items as they have to buy at regular rate as well.)

                Last year it turned out cheaper than BIG, but I was living near HK then!

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                • SeulS
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                  @FOXY:

                  Now you would only have to find a way to get this through customs…

                  I've said this before: I am willing to accept jeans for Germans and ship to them. Customs are a LOT easier to deal with here… If there's no (price)tag or invoice, they're described as a gift with a low value, worst that could happen is they tag on a 10 € fee cause they had to examine the package... And when the custom form is filled out correctly, they only open it when it's heavy (over 2 kgs), or was shipped with an Express service (as stores always use this shipping method)... I can ship to Germany (tracked) for 5 €.

                  Only for Europeans and only for non-IH items, let me make that clear.  😉

                  Oh and one more thing I want to clarify: I always offer free shipping and never charge anyone shipping when it involves doing a fellow IH forum member a favour, but I actually do pay 5.15 €/ package as the stamps I use cost me 20.75€ / 5.

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                  • FOXYF
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                    Might try this one day.

                    For now I have yet to try the Russian customs and how they deal with shipments from Japan or HK? Should be interesting.

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                      demonito
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                      ssup kai we talked about you yesterday at take5

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                        beautiful_FrEaK
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                        @kit99bar:

                        BF, the BKxBK material doesn't shrink much and stretch a lot right?  It looks like I could do a 29 or even 28 in these.

                        the BKB also uses a variation of the VX denim which normally shrinks less and streches much. But my S5000BK (also VX denim) shrank a lot with a single soak (still stretches though).
                        I think 2 guys on Sufu own this pair and also posted measuremens some weeks ago. Take a look there as I'm hesitant to give an advice on a pair I don't own or handled.

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                          I'm thinking of ordering the Samurai S510XX 21oz  from dc4. My fiirst Samurai. I'm unsure about the sizing though.
                          I'm wearing size 34 in IH 634S and S-RAW and both fit perfect in the waist (and in the leg). Seems I have to size up for the S510XX at least one size. They should end up with 35-35,5 inch (IH/BIG measuring method) in the waist after soaking and stretching.
                          (I know dc4 uses a different measuring method).

                          What do you think? Size 35?

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                          • FurattoHeddoF
                            FurattoHeddo
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                            I really like the colour of these loopwheel pieces, wish they'd make bigger sizes …

                            "Don't ever be sorry"

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                            • Jordan23J
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                              I have the 634S Raw in 33 and bought the S510XX (at DC4) in 34!So a 35 should fit you! The quality is awesome.

                              AE

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                                beautiful_FrEaK
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                                Yeah that sounds about right. From my personal experience, the S510XX21oz shrinks from tag size but also stretches back out to the raw measurement after wear. So the 35 might be the correct size.

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                                  omega9
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                                  thanks jordan and b_f,
                                  I'll order a size 35 then.

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                                  • FOXYF
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                                    @demonito:

                                    ssup kai we talked about you yesterday at take5

                                    Hi Ed, I'm fine. How are you? In HK again, I need get out to Asia again.
                                    Got an order waiting at Take5 waiting to get shipped (including a Samurai pair). Should I try and have them send it to Moscow?

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                                      @beautiful_FrEaK:

                                      @jacoavlu:

                                      or they're $725 in the us from big and you get them shipped to you as a low value gift…

                                      that's why I posted both links. 2ND and BiG. But it's true. 725$ sound 'good' at first but you also have to pay shipping (although Gordon might skip that for you considering the price you already pay) and customs would be the same 31%

                                      edit: but as I said. The old S5000KA was nicer in my eyes. Cooler color and nicer texture


                                      http://www.samurai-j.com/lineup/jeans/s5000ka/index.html

                                      If anyone is looking for a pair of W30 S5000CX BNWT: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-SAMURAI-S5000CX-selvage-jeans-Japan-Old-arcs-tab-/130643737280?pt=US_CSA_MC_Jeans&hash=item1e6af93ac0#ht_3225wt_1398

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                                        beautiful_FrEaK
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                                        This could be a pair riff is selling?! I remember he said something about owning a CX. Well they are not the KA (so not dyed with persimmon juice AFAIK) but still a very rare piece. Thanks for the link!

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                                          LandoCal126 0
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                                          @beautiful_FrEaK:

                                          This could be a pair riff is selling?! I remember he said something about owning a CX. Well they are not the KA (so not dyed with persimmon juice AFAIK) but still a very rare piece. Thanks for the link!

                                          Yeah from the other items being sold by this seller and the images used, I think you may be right. I almost bought a pair of the CX a few years ago from farmer but passed. Regret it a bit.

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                                          • SeulS
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                                            Those old S5000KA's look absolutely stunning…  :o

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