@sabergirl:

21oz has been known to stretch more than 1” when it has to. If the thighs already feel tight, I say go for it. Worst that happens they will be the most comfy pair of Baggy pants you’ve ever had!

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@Jett129:

One possible good thing is that you won't have to worry about shrinkage,and can wash and dry any way you want,as they'll stretch back out again.

Thanks for all your responses really appreciate it! I'll go to Self Edge store to see if they 36 for comparison, if not I'll just hem and keep the 38.

@Jett129:

The other option is asking IHUK if they might have a size 36 that's bigger,or a size 38 that's smaller.

I have, but all sold out unfortunately with the sale. If the waist expansion is 1 inch or so i'll probably just keep these.

@henry_david:

I second @sabergirl's wisdom on this one, @CCMedic

I may go to Self Edge to see if they have any 36 in stock and try them on for comparison. To be honest, I am happy with the current size. The stretching is what has me concerned.

@sabergirl:

How do the thighs feel?

21oz. Denim will easily stretch over 1” in the waist, especially if put under any stress (aka being a little too tight). I think they look fine as is, not too baggy, but I expect you’ll be happier with a 36. These will stretch out a little more and might end up feeling too big.

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The thighs actually feel snug but the waist is lose. For all my clothes I tend to order bigger waist so the thighs would fit, after years of squats in the gym this is normal for me. Only thing has me concerned is how much will it stretch. If it's 1 inch, Id stay with 38. If it's more like 2, I think I may need to get a 36.

Would like some advice on the fit. My waist measures 37 inches exactly. 634S 21 Oz Tag 36 says is 36 inch waist and Tag 38 is 38 inch, so after some measurements I decided to go with 38.

Here is how they fit on me (see images below), I notice the waist a bit lose but with a belt it's going to be ok. Right now the fit seems good. From those who own these do these stretch out significantly with wear? If Tag 36 is truly 2 inches smaller, I suspect I would not button them up.

Thoughts?

@neph93:

Everyone has their own way. There is no right way (although there are some dumb things you can do, either because they are damaging to the jeans/shirt or pointless).

Causing damage was actually the main reason I asked which products/frequency. I hope to get 3-4 years of wear from the jeans and shirts with proper care. I figure will give IR a try, if the live up to the longevity with care I'd probably switch over my wardrobe to IR.

@mikebarhoot:

Fels nafta or Woolite dark for detergent
Make sure you turn the pants inside out.
Bicks4 for patches yields the natural look longest
Obenauffs will darken

Got it, thanks for the pictures and advice going to order the detergent and Bick4 I already own.

I bought IR jeans and flannel with the sale. I was just curious what detergent products do you specifically use for IR jeans and IR flannels for laundry? I honestly don't want to soak anything in the bathtub, looking at some YT videos people take this too far. I prefer the washing machine with detergent. Also anyone here puts any products on the leather patch? If so what product and how often?

Thanks!