When deciding between sizes, if your shoulders have muscle on them go up - otherwise, if go with smaller size armpits will be too tight.

Army - Two things:

1. The 888 cut just fits right. I have a 666 and, comparatively, the rise is too low and thighs are too tight.
2. The 21oz OD material seems a lot thicker than the 21oz SBG. Has anyone else noticed this?
   thx.

Mine shrinked a lot, but it was hot washed, FYI.

@Evertonman I'm 5'9", 165 and had to go with a Large, FYI.

When deciding between sizes, if your shoulders have muscle on them go up - otherwise, if go with smaller size armpits will be too tight.

Just got the SBG. Great jeans. Will the thighs stretch over time? Any suggestions other than wearing them a lot? Thanks!

Great thorough answer, thx!

@shubharamani:

This thread is for people who wish to pose nagging questions (hopefully related to denim, but doesn't have to be) – in hopes of seeking an answer.

Does wabash fade the same as other IH 12 OZ denim and what makes the shirts with metal buttons better?  Thx.