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I never undo the top bottom.
Opening is equally easy on both. When the jeans are well worn in I can just rip the three buttons open in a half a second. Kind of a manly motion. LOL!
Closing, the zipper clearly wins. People who get the zizi caught in the zipper are just plain left-handed. That NEVER happened to me and I'm not gifted with extraordinary dexterity. If that happens to you, you shouldn't drive a car and stay away from knives.
Comfort. I find zippers more comfortable. Subjective, of course.
Style. Buttons are kinda cool and classic. So I guess buttons win.
Look. Zippers make for a slightly flatter front. This will give more relief if you know what I mean.
Repair. Military trousers were traditionally made only with buttons. When your zipper breaks you are SOL. When a single button breaks you can still close the others and it is also possible to replace a sewn button (not a riveted jeans button) in the field. Try that with a zipper.
Cost. Buttons are in principle cheaper to buy for the mfr. (I know there are super expensive buttons but we are talking in principle.) BUT zippers are cheaper to install. There is less labour and less material involved with a zipper. If a single person is making the closure of a pair of pants the cutting of the parts, button holes and button attaching will take probably two or three times as long as the zipper procedures.
Probably half of my jeans are zippers, half buttons.
I wasn't upset at all that I didn't get a 9634 with buttons anymore, for example.
Now, we don't have enough women on this forum (there are never enough women), but it would be interesting what they think of zipper versus buttons. They obviously don't have the "zipped in" risk. But what do they like better if they have to open a pair of jeans or if they are pressed against it? I have to my great dismay hurt women with buttons. So zippers are preferable in my eyes for this kind of close encounter.
Till
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^ Lots of good points till, i appreciate you taking the time to write that out for me (us) hehe. and yes, i do the MANLY button pop pull as well.
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@simon626:
my girls usually take their jeans off themselves.
That's not what I meant but if they do that you are on the right track.
Do you remember the scene in the Italian Job when the one guy got a stereo that would blow the clothes off any woman? Hilarious.For a change, try to take their jeans off. Or date girls in skirts.
What I meant was do your girls prefer buttons or zip? In my experience they prefer zip. They don't have the strength or courage to pop the buttons and to undo each one, especially on jeans, takes too much time and could break their finger nails. So zip wins for the girls.
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denim is cotton…...
and have you seen a woman in slim raw denim and heels?????
and till, i think women prefer zippers because they lay flatter on their ummm...location. i believe you hinted at that in your previous post.
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Simon, cycle through this thread until you find something that changes your mind… i bet you anything you will... http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=60059
check pages 76, 93, 95 and 174 (i kinda think neptunecitylocal is cute… teehee)
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@simon626:
i prefer my girls in spring dresses with little to no under garments. Tooo awesome when your girlfriend goes on a date with you and whispers that to you hahaha
I honestly hate denim on a girl if i'm trying to get her out of it. Denim blocks out so much sensitivity, they really can't feel you through their jeans/ jean shorts. I much rather prefer 100% cotton if anything on a girl.
Simon, at that point you are most definitely on the right track. Keep up the good work!
and till, i think women prefer zippers because they lay flatter on their ummm…location. i believe you hinted at that in your previous post.
Yes. That is correct.
@simon626:
Simon, cycle through this thread until you find something that changes your mind… i bet you anything you will... http://www.superfuture.com/supertalk/showthread.php?t=60059
I meant cotton as in regular cotton fabric, that has not been weaved into hard impenetrable denim haha.
C'mon! You can't penetrate 21oz IH denim? That's so lame. Shame on you!
Just pulling your leg, my friend!
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denim is cotton…...
and have you seen a woman in slim raw denim and heels?????This woman does wears raw denim and heels ! PS. If it matters, I prefer button fly – button-fly just seems more rugged to me, and Iron Heart is all about rugged.
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@shubharamani:
On SuFu, I have 0 reputation power. But yet, I have 3634 points total. Various people have complimented my (few) pics on "Raw for Women", "Samurai" and "WAYWT (Denim)". So – how do I get power ? Or does it fucking matter ?
I can give you + rep. Just gimme your nick Shubz…
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Ahhh..I'm learning. Seul, I'm shubharamani on SuFu. Rep my ass if you want. I don't really give a shit about it though – give rep to Beats so she can get free room & board when she comes to SF this May (Kiya has paid for a place in The Mission, and is giving free bunk to SuFu members with the highest rep). I've been meaning to give Beats rep too...will do so now !
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Why do you (the reader whom this applies to) prefer zippers? what makes them the cats meow and bees knees? please let me know, this is of great interest to me…
I just don't see the point of buttons anymore…zippers are more convenient...I don't care much either way, but given the choice...there is no advantage to buttons...
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IMO
1. zippers look cheap
2. they can break
3. body parts can get…..hung up
4. getting caught with your fly down sucks too.
Plus, you ask the average person "what's the first brand and fit of jean you can think of?" 9 out of 10 people I bet will say Levi 501 and what do the 501's have.....button fly. They're classic, original, and what all jeans should have imho of course. -
I vote dchill for president of button fly awesomeness club
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Dchill, I totally respect your opinion but I don't see how it makes a difference in remembering to close your fly whether you have zipper or buttons. One could even make an argument that since people are lazy (I'm the king of lazy, unfortunately) they might rather "forget" to button up than to zip up.
The reason 501s have buttons is that, if I'm not mistaken, zippers didn't exist back then. I think they only started to be really common after WWII.
As I said, I've got no real preference and my jeans are split 50/50. But if somebody asked me to decide for all eternity between buttons and zip, I'd go with the zip.
I also think the Talon zips used in IH jeans are classy in their own right. It's what all the good vintage jeans used.
Till
