@Seul:

Isn't this denim just the best?.. This and the 18 oz raw?.. And the 21/ 23?.. 

exactly!!!!!!!

best
dieter

@Ghetto:

@Affinaro:

Hey everyone

Sorry for asking noob questions all the time… Should i alter/hem my jeans after i soak it or before i soak it?
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I'm guessing after soaking, since it might shrink. Or after soaking, wear and let the combs and whiskers settles before hemming.

there is a difference between soaking and machinewashing. this is my experience.
machinewashing means at at least 3% more shrinking than soaking or handwashing.

3% sounds to be not so much, but in fact sometimes this makes the fit!!
i soaked my 634-raw 21/23 and still it was to wide and i really wanted to sell it, but after machinewashing it was perfect!!

my wife has a special program 15 minutes, 40 degrees and a special detergent for BLUE jeans material.

best
dieter

@nietenhosen:

nice!!

but can you tell us how old, how many soaks, how many machine washes??

until today i only soaked my jeans.
i am thinking about a machine wash of my 634!!

best dieter

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dieter

@RP:

Bump for New Years Eve

woah!!!!

thats the best fit i saw for this jeans.

i must send mine to giles for hemming!!!

fantastic!!

best
dieter

@zwer:

Huzzah! Coincidentally, I might actually have some money by then.

I think these will be a suitable birthday present for me, unless I can find a '72 Rolex Oysterdate.

price might be a little different

best
dieter

hi giles,

when will you get a restock??(size 36)

best
dieter

@xtcclassic:

After reading this whole thread, I'm considering grabbing a pair of these as soon as my size is restocked. Those of you who have soaked/washed yours, did you lose any of the sheen? I usually will give my jeans a very gentle wash with Dr. Bronners soap just to remove the starch, but I'd hate to lose the glorious sheen these jeans are known for.

i got my pair in october/november (don`t know exactly when)
i soaked it in handwarm water for 5 min. nearly no difference.
so in fact you can leave it as it is!!

it is incredible how slowly they show signs of wear (and i am wearing it every single day).

best
dieter

@crisone:

what did any of you use to leave the button holes open during soak??  I know of using quarters, anyone try anything else??

Cris.

mine are still unsoaked, but i will put exacly half of the buttons in the holes.
you know what i mean??

best
dieter

thanks to all, will do my best

dieter

I gave them an extremely gentle hot wash (without detergent).

doesn`t it lose a lot of the color if you wash it (instead of soaking)
extremly?  how many degrees??

and a general question concerning the soaking:  do you ad something??

thanks
dieter