I want to report that this jacket is amazingly warm. I live in Chicago and this keeps me warm in 20F degree weather. I was not expecting that. This can truly be a year round jacket.

Holy cow! This jacket is incredible. Bought the SE version, and my mind is blown. That flannel liner is so sweet.

@Transporter amazing summary! The split steer being warmer is a nice benefit over the horsehide. Thanks!

In terms of rugged durability is the horsehide leather rider jacket more or less durable than the split steerhide type III jacket?

In terms of rugged durability is the horsehide leather jacket more or less durable than the split steerhide type III jacket?

If UH flannels fit me well in a large, should I go with a large in this jacket? Thanks

I want to report that this jacket is amazingly warm. I live in Chicago and this keeps me warm in 20F degree weather. I was not expecting that. This can truly be a year round jacket.

Holy cow! This jacket is incredible. Bought the SE version, and my mind is blown. That flannel liner is so sweet.

If I measure a size 32 waist using the IH method. Should I size down in these to a 31 to factor in stretching?

Also, could you wear boots with the hem?

Waist looks big on these chinos. Are they larger than a 32 in their jean size?

How does the fit on this jacket change over time? Does it get bigger or smaller? It fits pretty perfect new, so just want to judge how and if it will change overtime. Thanks!