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thanks for all the replies folks. im thinking im going to exchange them…. however im gonna exchange them for either an 634xhs or the PIH5DCS. now i need to decide which. the idea of 25 ox denim is exciting. now i need to decide whether i want indigo indigo or xhs... ugh. input is welcome. @Giles is the 25 oz pronto denim similiar in feel to the 18 oz. is it as tight a weave?
I would be inclined to do the Pronto collab. Hard to say if 25 oz. double indigo will happen very often whereas the XHS is much more likely to be obtainable in the future. Of course Giles can correct me on this if I'm wrong.
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thanks for all the replies folks. im thinking im going to exchange them…. however im gonna exchange them for either an 634xhs or the PIH5DCS. now i need to decide which. the idea of 25 ox denim is exciting. now i need to decide whether i want indigo indigo or xhs... ugh. input is welcome. @Giles is the 25 oz pronto denim similiar in feel to the 18 oz. is it as tight a weave?
I think you are making a mistake, if you struggled with the 18oz, then the 25oz will have you begging for forgiveness…..
The 25oz is a slightly looser weave.
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^seconded. FWIW, YMMV, EIEIO.
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@Giles I'm curious what you mean when you say " I struggled"? Maybe I didn't explain my dilemma properly.it was the fit in the waist that was my biggest issue. After trying on the jeans several times, I realized the thigh did fit. After careful consideration I decided the waist was way too small for me. I sized up with the pronto. The size I ordered measured 1.25 bigger.
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Well, it must be me who is not understanding. You said I believe, that they fit perfectly in the waist pre soak. Yes? You have had a number of people chime in (possibly me included) saying that they will be fine once they have shrunk/stretched. So either they don't fit perfectly after all, or you don't trust the advice given to you, or you've changed shape.
But as I have also said, your jeans, your body, your money - you need to be 100% happy,,,,
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I was hasty in saying the waist fit perfectly. After a few more try ons my opinion changed. 2 jobs and a 10
Month old and a serious lack of sleep leaves me cloudy. i realize all These questions and doubts of mine are sophomoric. But it's a learning process. I appreciate all the help from everyone. Have a good day -
Yo guys
I am planning to buy a pair of 717 Chinos, i was wondering can i get 2 cm (0.8") shrinkage in the front rise if i super hot soak?
Of that specific pair the rise measures 29.5 cm (11.61").
Because i don't live around the corner here i will order them from the japanese Iron Heart site. Do you think they are willing to measure a pair for me or is that something japanese shops don't do?
Cheers
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Can someone tell me when the IH634S had a Crotch Rivet?
Did a search but nothing relevant
Thanks
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Yo guys
I am planning to buy a pair of 717 Chinos, i was wondering can i get 2 cm (0.8") shrinkage in the front rise if i super hot soak?
Of that specific pair the rise measures 29.5 cm (11.61").
Because i don't live around the corner here i will order them from the japanese Iron Heart site. Do you think they are willing to measure a pair for me or is that something japanese shops don't do?
Cheers
That much shrink in the rise can be asking for a lot. The 717s come unwashed so everything will shrink up to some degree or another. Personally I would go for it and if you only get a quarter inch of shrink that extra half inch of rise won't really be an issue anyway.
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@LONANRANGER If memory serves the 634s was available with a crotch rivet by request only many moons ago, c.2008 or '09, or maybe a little earlier. Back when you could get silver rivets, too. Wish I would've gone for the silver…
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@LONANRANGER If memory serves the 634s was available with a crotch rivet by request only many moons ago, c.2008 or '09, or maybe a little earlier. Back when you could get silver rivets, too. Wish I would've gone for the silver…
@sabergirl - Thanks for the response - picked up a pair of as new unworn IH634S with a crotch rivet and wonder when they were made
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Hello @Giles. I'm about About to soak my Pronto 10th anniversary. Suggestions for temperature? I want to get all The shrink out. Thanks
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Soaking in its own does not cause shrinkage, you need to agitate too. I do in hottest water I can put my hands in….
Yes I plan on agitating too. My hands can take about 125 degrees F. Been carrying pizzas trays for years. Hot stuff. Muchos gracias amigo.
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@Sreeni I have no idea.
Size variance from the mean varies from model to model, denim to denim, workshop to workshop, seamstress to seamstress. In broad terms, the heavier and stiffer the denim is, the larger variation we get from the mean, but we don't log that sort of information….
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@Sreeni I have no idea.
Size variance from the mean varies from model to model, denim to denim, workshop to workshop, seamstress to seamstress. In broad terms, the heavier and stiffer the denim is, the larger variation we get from the mean, but we don't log that sort of information….
@Giles Alright, thanks a lot!
